Our Warriors Need Your Help
Both those in or deploying soon to
Afghanistan as well as Iraq.
Please remember and honor them every day.
With your help, we've sent 63,450
helmet pad upgrade kits to our Heroes
Doc Bob's Blog
has additional information. Attention PEO
Soldier. I'm protecting the identity of these troops, but if you want to
come down to Texas and read the original emails after signing a confidentiality
agreement, you're welcome. We don' make this stuff up
Have a video or youtube comment on
the pads? Let us know: ophelm at operation-helmet.org
March 17, 2011: In a hearing of the House Armed
Services Committee' Subcommittee on Tactical Air and Land Forces, the
Army's
PEO Soldier Commanding Officer
blamed helmet discomfort
(at 1:19:25 on the tape) on inadequately fitted helmets not worn appropriately
with all pads in place.See emails below for what
troops who actually wear helmets in combat have to say about that.
In the meantime:
PEO Soldier tells us they have not had
a single complaint about the helmet/pad 'system' either from Soldiers
in the field or during post-deployment debriefing. Therefore, they will continue
to field the 'bricks' you are asking us to upgrade with the top-of-the-line pads
we provide, courtesy of the American public. Our feeling is that either someone
is not passing the Word or else we had a front-loader of BS heaped on us at the
meeting.
Will SOMEONE have the guts
to go up the chain of command or directly to PEO Soldier and tell them what's really
happening inside their brain bucket? You can email PEO Soldier's Project Manager
for Soldier Equipment at william.cole@us.army.mil
If you can't gain access with your CAC card or can't find where to register the
notice of deficiency, use snail mail addressed to: Project Manager
Soldier Protection & Individual Equipment SFAE-SDR-SPIE 10170 Beach Road Bldg
325 Fort Belvoir, VA 22060-5862.
Unless
PEO Soldier hears from the individual trooper or unit in combat, nothing will change
and troops will keep taking their helmet off to relieve the headache caused by too-firm
pads. That's unacceptable! We want ALL our troops protected to the best of America's
ability to provide head/brain protection that's wearable. We don't care WHO
makes the pads, just that the pads are engineered for wearability/comfort in
order not to detract from mission performance. We need your help to bring about
a change.
Feedback from a combat unit when I
asked them to go directly to PEO Soldier with their complaint:
I can definitely look in to filling out a feedback
comment on the PEO website. The thing is, this is the first time I have heard of
PEO. The reason they have not had an official complaint is probably because not
many people know the website exists. I finally found it, and even then, under
the Equipment tab, I'm trying to find information on any item and nothing is
showing up. Maybe it's just the network I'm on, but it's not much help. If they
are really interested in improving products, they should do a better job
advertising PEO and informing Soldiers they can leave feedback
comments/suggestions on the equipment. If they're not interested in feedback,
then they're on the right track and need to do nothing.
And from another Lt: I am currently on the PEO website
and I cannot find a survey or feedback page for the pads. There is a
link for it, but it leads to an empty page.
ACH = Advanced Combat Helmet.
CIF = Central Issue Facility. NSN = National Stock Number.
NOD = Night
Observation Device. NVG = Night Vision Goggles. PSD = Personnel Security Detachment.
FOB = Forward Operating Base. COP = Combat Outpost XO = Executive Officer (2nd in Command)
ANP = Afghan National Police. POG =
Personnel Other than Grunt (which is all military MOSs other than infantry).
FOBBIT = military personnel who never leave the Forward Operating
Base (derived from the HOBBITT which were creatures who did not like to
leave their homes).
And now, from the pointy end
of the spear: emails from the heart: direct quotes with (most) expletives
deleted
LISTEN TO YOUR TROOPS,
ARMY!
1 Feb 2012: HAVING BEEN
DEPLOYED WITH IN THE PAST YEAR AND WEARING MY ACH ALL THE TIME OVER THERE I CAN
SAY THAT THE ISSUE HELMET PADS ARE
HORRIBLE. THE CAN MAKE THOSE LONG PATROLS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE AND IN A PLACE LIKE
THAT YOUR HELMET BEING COMFORTABLE IS A MUST. THE ISSUE PADS, ONCE FILLED WITH
SWEAT ONE TIME, ARE ALWAYS HARD AS A ROCK AND NEVER REALLY FORM TO YOUR HEAD.
LIKE I SAID EARLIER I AM THE XO FOR AN INFANTRY RSTA (Reconnaissance,
Surveillance, and Target Acquisition) COMPANY AND WE WILL BE
REDEPLOYING HERE IN THE NEXT xxx MONTHS. I AM REQUESTING ENOUGH PADS TO OUTFIT
THE COMPANY BUT ANY THING WOULD BE A START. PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CONTACT ME WITH
ANY QUESTIONS AND I HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON. THANKS IN ADVANCE. 1Lt USA Army
16 Jan 2012: Doc, a couple months ago you sent me some
helmet pads. I wanted to thank you very much. The pads you sent me had an
immediate impact on my ability to do my mission. The old pads were causing
headaches almost instantly. I haven't had a problem since. Thank you again for
your support and caring enough to help. God Bless and take care, CSM, US Army.
12 Jan 2012: Kits: 23. Duties: Medic. Current Pads:
not for sure what kind but its is all black or bottom is black and top is
gray. these are the ones they always hand out. Comments: they dont form to
the head. They cause head aches. SPC, US Army.
9 Jan 2012: Kits: 44. Hometown: UPLAND CA. Heard
About us: Brother who is in Marines. Duties: EXPLOSIVE ORDNANCE DISPOSAL.
Current Pads: MSA. Comments: The current pads cause my soldiers as well as
myself headaches after prolonged wear and donot provide the proper
protection from IED Blasts the we deal with on a daily basis being Explosive
Ordnance Disposal Techs. We are currently scheduled to deploy and would like
our guys to have these before we deploy. SSG, US Army.
7 Jan 2012: Kits: 2. Hometown: rochester. Duties:
infantry. Current Pads: gray. Comments: old, warn out. SPC, US Army.
5 Jan 2012: Kits: 24. Heard About us: Friend.
Duties: PL
(platoon leader)
in a Cav Recon Troop as part of an IBCT in charge of combat readiness,
combat patrols, finding and destroying the enemy on the ground. Platoon will
be outside the wire on a continual basis as a land owner as well in
Afghanistan. Current Pads: NSN 8470-01-546-9415. Comments: Unit funds are
limited and make it difficult for soldiers to acquire new pads when they get
lost or destroyed. Finding a comfortable fit for all soldiers continues to
be a problem at all levels to ensure combat readiness status at all times.
2LT, US Army.
2 Jan 2012: Kits: 1. Heard About us: a battle
buddy/medic. Duties: MEDIC. Current Pads: the one issued. Comments: the current
pads is extremely uncomfortable on missions. I tried on another battle's ach with
the pads they ordered here, and causes less headaches and feels a lot better. SPC, US Army.
2 Jan 2012: Kits: 1. Heard About us:
my company Duties: Rcp. Current Pads: nsn. Comments: Been getting very bad
headache and marks on my head wear my helmet more than 12 hours each mission
SPC, US Army.
31 Dec 2011: Kits: 1. Duties: medic.
Current Pads: green,foam and cloth. Comments: they dont form very well and
let the helmet slip around. PFC, US Army.
31 Dec 2011: Kits: 10, Heard About us:
Internet. Duties: Mentoring ANA. Current Pads: sewn seam, glued, and other.
Comments: headaches. SSG, US Army.
31 Dec 2011: Kits: 40. Hometown: Fort
Leonard Wood MO. Heard About us: Google. Duties: Route Clearance. Current
Pads: Basic Issue pads. Green on back and black and kinda squishy. Gets hard
and flat after a few hours. Comments: Soldiers just hate their helmets. They
cause pain and itching over time and we wear our helmets for 10+ hours each
mission. If our guys dont mind wearing the helmets, they will continue to
protect them. SPC, US Army.
31 Dec 2011: Kits: 80. Hometown: ANCHORAGE
AK. Heard About us: GOOGLE. Duties: RCP. Current Pads: NSN 8470 01 546 9415.
Comments: THESE PADS ARE CAUSING SORES FOR OUR SOLDIERS, THEY WEAR THE ACH
FOR OVER 10 HRS WHILE DOING RCP MISSIONS. i WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME FOR OUR
COMPANY THAT RUNS TWO RCPS. SPC, US Army.
31 Dec 2011: Kits: 1. Hometown: Newburgh,
IN. Heard About us: Google. Duties: Communications. Current Pads: So old
that the writing has worn of so Im not sure, they are kinda gray. Comments:
the pads are hard and uncomfortable and they are starting to fall apart and
my supply. SPC, US Army.
27 Dec 2011: Kits: 1. Duties: Route Clearance.
Current Pads: Unit PAD Crown Size 3/4 NSN 8470-01-506-8425. Comments: They Are
To stff and after a short period of time they give me a headache. The front pad
digs into my forehead and leaves a big red mark. They are also Torn on the back
were they stick to the velcro, creating a problem with them staying in. SPC, US
Army.
22 Dec 2011: Kits: 1. Duties: Convoy. Current
Pads: NSN. Comments: It is not confortable on rocky roads and it is even harder
on the cold its like they freeze or something. SPC, US Army.
19 Dec 2011: Kits: 10. Hometown: St.
Petersburgs, FL. Heard About us: a fellow soldier from a prior unit. Duties: We are #1 route
clearance in Kandahar Prov.(true story). Our job is Route Clearance, we lead all
missions for anyone that needs safe travel off the hard ball. Most missions are
approx. 8-10 hours, but more often than not we are directed to clear specific
routes to enable freedom of movements for trigger pullers. typically missions
exceed 15 hours. I have more than occasionally found my soldiers with kevlars
off while on mission, specifically due to pain on the head or eventually
headaches. Current Pads: all i know is that they are green and black, no writing
on them and there is a number for sizing. Comments: any amount of donations to my soldiers would be greatly appreciated.
Sgt, US Army.
18 Dec 2011: Kits: 2. Hometown: Littleton, Colorado.
Heard About us: EOD Team Leader. Duties: EOD. Current Pads: Black Pads, the
seam forms a lip near the velcro side of the pad, the texture is kind of
felt like. Comments: The pads I have are completely worn out, almost to the
point of being flat. They only lasted about 6 months before they started to
become uncomfortable. The way the pads cause my helmet to ride on my head
gives me headaches because there's no real cushioning in them any more. SPC,
US Army.
16 Dec 2011: Kits: 4. Hometown: Vernon, CT. Heard
About us: Online. Duties: Combat Medics. Current Pads: NSN. Comments: Worn.
SPC, US Army.
16 Dec 2011: Kits: 1. Heard About us: Friend. Duties:
Cavalry Scout. Current Pads: NSN. Comments: When we do night missions and
use our NVGs our helmets fall forawrd all the time become a huge hassle.
PV2, US Army.
16 Dec 2011: Kits: 2. Heard About us: google.
Duties: dismount team leader. Current Pads: basic black pads. Comments: they
cause pain so i remove a few for extended wear. SGT, US Army.
12 Dec 2011: Kits: 43. Heard About us: Wife found your
info online. Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: Green pads with black
underside. appears to be a NSN however it has faded with repeated washings.
Comments: cause head aches over long duration missions. SGT, US Army.
12 Dec 2011: Kits: 1. Heard About us: My roommate
told me when I asked him where he got the awesome pads. Duties: Infantry.
Current Pads: NSN6470-01-646-9416. Comments: The army issued pads I got
basicly felt rock hard when they issued and have only gotten worse after
countless missions pouring sweat into them. SPC, US Army.
11 Dec 2011: Kits: 8. Heard About us: FELLOW SOLDIER
RECIEVED PADS FROM YOUR ORGANIZATION. Duties: CAVALRY SCOUT - RECON. Current
Pads: NSN. Comments: CURRENT PADS DO NOT STICK AND STIFFEN AFTER SHORT
PERIOD OF USE. I AM REQUESTING THE 8 KITS FOR MY SOLDIERS. SSGT, US Army.
10 Dec 2011: Counter IED Operation, Distrupting Taliban
Operations. The new pad you sent out to me and my men are great, they are by
FAR much better then the standard issued grey pads, they are soft,
comfortable and dont feel like rocks. The old pads when they got dirty from
sweat and dirt, no matter how much we cleaned them they were still horrible
and was a constant problem for us. We really appreciate the pads and its 100
times more tolerable to wear our ACH's Thank You so much from 1-67 AR Scout
platoon. Scouts Out!! SGT, US Army.
8 Dec 2011: Kits: 75. Duties: route clearance. Current
Pads: standerd issued/foliage green. Comments: They are rock hard and make
the helments fit poorly, I had got a small amout from you guys for my last
deployment and am soon to be shipped to Afganastan and would like to get
more for the guys who did not recieve or are new to the unit. SPC. US Army.
4 Dec 2011: Kits: 1. Hometown: Newmarket NH. Heard
About us: Google. Duties: EOD. Current Pads: Green Army issued, missing most
of them. Comments: My current pads are just to the point of being damaged
past usuability and my Army supply system wont order new ones for us. SGT,
US Army.
4 Dec 2011: Kits: 1. Hometown: Pasco. Heard About us:
from the USO in the air port. Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: NSN. Comments:
The pads don't fit all types of head shapes ie. the pads on the sides makes
the ACH sit higher than it should because they can't go low enough to give
the support needed. Other than that it has improved alot from the past
helmet types. SFC, US Army.
30 Nov 2011: Kits: 1. Heard About us: Google
Search. Duties: Combat Engineer-Route Clearance. Current Pads: MSA.
Comments: The helmet gets uncomfortable on the head after wearing it for 5+
hour missions. The pad system is a step up from what I had before, but it's
still not all that great. SPC, US Army.
27 Nov 2011: Kits: 1. Heard About us: Random Search.
Duties: Military Intel. Current Pads: NSN. Comments: Just feels too hard.
SGT, US Army.
25 Nov 2011: Kits: 1. Heard About us: a friend. Duties:
CSM for the unit. Current Pads: NSN 8470-01-506-6626. Comments: Very
uncomfortable, when wearing for extended time. CSM, US Army.
25 Nov 2011: Kits: 1. Hometown: Morris, MN. Heard About
us: S1 E-mail. Duties: Mechanic/ Convoy. Current Pads: W911QV-05-D-0003
NSN8470-01-606-6626 GENTEX CORPORATION. Comments: The current pads give me
headaches when worn for extended periods of time. They are also very hard
when the weather is cold but lossen up after worn for a few minutes. Most
troops are removing pads to make the ACH fit better (top, rear, and one each
of the sides). SSG, US Army.
25 Nov 2011: Kits: 1. Heard About us: From another
soldier. Duties: Line Medic. Current Pads: nsn 8470-01-546-9356. Pad, Helmet
Advanced combat size. Comments: The pads compress down with the weight of my
NVG's attached and cause discomfort and headaches while moving around the
terrain. I can deal with the moisture and discomfort for a while but the
pads are just low quality and the pain they cause my head is a distraction
from the mission. SPC, US Army.
25 Nov 2011: Kits: 1. Hometown: Starbuck, MN. Heard
About us: From another soldier. Duties: Agricultural Officer in Charge.
Current Pads: What came with the ACH. Comments: They are too stiff, makes it
uncomfortable to wear. LTC, US Army.
25 Nov 2011: Kits: 1. Hometown: Odin, MN. Heard About
us: Fellow Soldier. Duties: Operations officer for [xxx] Agribusiness Team.
Current Pads: Factor Sewn seam I was issue at Camp Atterbury. Comments:
uncomfortable, especailly during long missions. LTC, US Army.
24 Nov 2011: Kits: 1. Hometown: Saint Paul, MN. Heard
About us: Fellow Soldier. Duties: ADT TC/Driver. Current Pads: NSN
8470-01-506-6626. Comments: Thank you! SFC, US Army.
24 Nov 2011: Kits: 1. Duties: Agribusiness Development
Team traveling around Zabul Province in Afghanistan. Current Pads: The
standard issue junk ones.......nothing like a brick on your head. Comments:
I have heard your pads are the best possible. Looking forward to something
better than the stock junk. SFC, US Army.
24 Nov 2011: Kits: 1. Hometown: White Bear Lake,
MN.Heard About us: from a team members. Duties: Agricultural training and
Outreach - building stability through advancement of 80% of economy of
Afghanistan. Current Pads: NSN8470-01-506-6626 (GENTEX). Comments: Fit is
not consistent. COL, US Army.
24 Nov 2011: Kits: 2. Hometown: johnston, ri. Heard
About us: friend. Duties: infantry. Current Pads: nsn. Comments: i am
currentley deployed to afghanistan sending to my house because i go on leave
and will will get them sooner at home then i will here thank you very much.
SPC, US Army.
24 Nov 2011: Kits: 1. Hometown: West Palm Beach FL.
Heard About us: Team Leader. Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: Unit Pad NSN
8470-**-***-****. Comments: The pads Issued are so horribly
uncomfortable the only time my ACH is actually on my head is if someone
important is around or we are in a moving military vehicle outside the wire.
They cause headaches pinch points and overall are just terrible feels like a
piece of cardboard trying to cushion a 10lb bucket wearing NVG's only makes
the problem 100 times worse please help! PFC, US Army.
24 Nov 2011: Kits: 2. Hometown: Norwich, CT. Heard
About us: FRIEND. Duties: SECFOR INFANTRY. Current Pads: Can't read the
writing, it's black on the bottom and green on the side that fits against
the helmet. Comments: Alresdy in Afghanistan at FOB Mehtar Lam. Going home
on leave soon. SFC, US Army.
23 Nov 2011: Kits: 2 Hometown: north kingstown. Heard
About us: FRIEND. Duties: INFANTRY. Current Pads: STANDARD ISSUE.. NSN
8470-01-506-6626. Comments: The pads are causing head aches and hurt after
about an hour of wearing them. SPC, US Army.
22 Nov 2011: Kits: 2. Heard About us: Word of mouth.
Duties: Combat Advisor. Current Pads: Standard issue- green , glue on foam,
hard. Comments: The pads give me head tension issues. SGT, US Army.
21 Nov 2011: Kits: 5 Hometown: Victoria, TX. Heard
About us: Google. Duties: Security/Convoy/Vehicle Recovery. Current Pads:
GENTEX Corporation (Foliage Green). Comments: Headaches within 30-45 min of
wearing ACH. Head starts to get hot spots and starts to itch as well. It is
distracting and a hindrance to mission performance and safety. SPC, US Army.
21 Nov 2011: Heard About us: our Medic. Duties: convoy
security on gun trucks. Current Pads: MSA. Comments: My ACH helmet is very
unconfortable to wear. SPC, US Army.
16 Nov 2011: Kits: 10. Duties: ROUTE CLEARANCE. Current
Pads: Green pads. Comments: Headaches. uncomfortable. SGT, US Army.
13 Nov 2011: Kits: 10. Hometown: Marengo, Ohio. Heard
About us: a medic friend of mine. Duties: Dismounted patrols through
orchards and village clearence missions. Current Pads: grey standard issue
pads. Comments: The standard issue pads we get after a few times of wearing
them in this weather and also to field problems before we deployed dosnt
matter how many times you wash them they get stiff and lose the "padding"
effect to make the wear comfortable and safe. SGT, US Army.
12 Nov 2011: Hometown: Pasadena, CA. Heard About us:
Internet. Duties: Manuever. Current Pads: nsn. Comments: The pads i
currently have are not sticking any more. The velcro is starting to seperate
and rip. SGT, US Army.
12 Nov 2011: Hometown: Leicester Ma. Heard About us: a
buddy in the platoon. Duties: INFANTRY SECFOR. Current Pads: NSN. Comments:
they are hard and compressed and soak up sweat and stay wet/ smell. im
asking for two kits so i can have one and i can give one to my roomate but
if need be one is fine. PFC, US Army.
11 Nov 2011: Kits: 1 Hometown: FORT HOOD, TEXAS. Heard
About us: Duties: UNIT PSYOPS OFFICER. Current Pads: NSN 8470-01-506-6851.
Comments: HARD AND UNCOMFORTABLE. CPT, US Army.
11 Nov 2011: Kits: 1 Hometown: FORT HOOD, TEXAS. Heard
About us: Duties: CAVALRY SCOUT. Current Pads: NSN 8470-01-506-6454.
Comments: PADS ARE UNCOMFORTABLE. CPT, US Army.
11 Nov 2011: Hometown: East Greenwich, RI. Heard About
us: Other soldiers that have replaced their helmet pads. Duties: Infantry
Current Pads: NSN. Comments: My current helmet pads cause headaches after
wearing my helmet for 5 minutes. It seems that due to the rigid composition
of the pads they try and fit your head to them, rather than fitting to the
shape of your head. There is enough things to be focusing on when running a
mission without having to be distracted by unnecessary pain from a helmet.
SPC, US Army.
11 Nov 2011: Hometown: Moorehad. Heard About us: google
search. Duties: Executive Officer for [xxx] Development Team Current Pads:
NSN: 8479-01-506-6626 Unit Pad, Crown WB11QY-05-D0001 90425 Lot 92 1936.
Comments: extremely uncomfortable, hard, non-molding. Leaves hotspots and
causes headaches. I had the 1st generation ACH & had no problems. This one
is newly issued, out of the box & it is very uncomfortable no matter how I
try to adjust the pads. LTC, US Army.
10 Nov 2011: Hometown: Honolulu, HI. Duties: Medic with
the "Distro" platoon protecting supply convoys. Current Pads: Black rougher
back with od green front feels like it has a foam pad inside Comments:
Headaches and itchiness they are very dificult to clean. SPC, US Army.
9 Nov 2011: Hometown: Foxboro, MA. Heard About us:
Google. Duties: Strike Force Platoon. Current Pads: Basic issue. There a
greyish color and have gotten hard as hell over the past year. Wash them
monthly and there still hard. Comments: Headaches everytime (especially on
forehead when night vision goggles are mounted) Which is usally most of the
time since we operate at night usually. Hair loss especailly where the pads
are rubbing on my head. SPC, US Army.
8 Nov 2011: Hometown: Colorado Springs. Heard About us:
Google search. Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: I currently have a skydex as
the crown pad in my ACH, all the other pads are standard issue. All my
soldiers have the standard issue. Comments: The current pads are hard a rock
and take months to conform to your head. The collect grim and dirt very
quickley, many soldiers just simply wash them but once you do that they
become even harder to wear back in, not to mention how long they take to dry
out once you sweated in them for 72hrs. SGT, US Army.
6 Nov 2011: Hometown: Midlothian, TX Heard About us:
internet Duties: convoy Current Pads: NSN Comments: pads are very firm and
hard-I always get a headache when wearing my ACH-It's very uncomfortable.
SPC, US Army.
31 Oct 2011: Hometown: Clover South Carolina. Heard
About us: Google. Duties: I am in Afghanistan now. I am an Infantry Team
Leader. Current Pads: Not sure.. sorry I dont have helmet with at this time.
It is the basic issued pads by the army. Comments: Right now the pads are
fine. This is my 3rd deployment using the same helmet with different pads.
cleaning them is tough and they are just really dirty and grimey. SGT, US
Army.
31 Oct 2011: Heard About us: A fellow Soldier. Duties:
I am a logistics operator and advisor and I travel outside the wire on a
regular basis. Current Pads: NSN 8470-01-546-9415. Comments: It is hard on
my head. MAJ, US Army.
30 Oct 2011: Hometown: Ft Bliss, TX. Heard About us:
Soldier's on CLP recomendation. Duties: Batallion Maintenance. Current Pads:
NSN- 8470-01-546-9415. Comments: poorly fit, headaches, visual distraction,
and Irritation. 1SG, US Army.
28 Oct 2011: Hometown: Fort Knox, KY. Heard About us: A
fellow. Soldier Duties: Conducting reconnaissance, project planning, and
construction missions in order to build new FOBs, COPs, OPs, and establish
offensive and defensive positions to execute tactical combat operations.
Current Pads: Velcro pads. Round pad on the inside top. Rectangular pads
around the inside brim. Comments: The current pads and chin strap are very
difficult to adjust and keep adjusted. The chin portion of the chin strap is
irritating and harbors bacteria. If cleaned in the washer - the form changes
and consistency is not the same. The form does not keep shape and cause the
helmet to 'lift-up' off your head causing a bad and uncomfortable fit.
CPT, US Army.
[Update 4 Nov 2011: I received your helmet kits and they are absolutely
amazing! These are definitely an upgrade for comfort and fit! I have passed
the kits out to my Soldiers and feedback is all positive. The only thing I
would add to the kits are two additional size 8 oval pads in order to fit
six of these pads vertically around the inside of the helmet to sync with
the size 6 traps in the front and rear. Other than that, the comfort is like
wearing a marshmallow, but a very snug and stable fit - which is difficult
to achieve both. The velcro strips are great as they are segmented for easy
application and are capable of being cut and shaped to better fit pads to
the liking of each Soldier - so very versatile in that aspect as well. I
would be interested in passing out more if they are available. I have 28
Soldiers total and would like to fit all of them with these pads. I
understand feedback is key so once we get a few patrols in with wearing them
for long periods of time, optics mounted on helmets (added weight), and
sweat variables I will email you again with more feedback. Thanks for
hooking us up with a great product - they will get great use daily!]
27 Oct 2011: Hometown: monroe, MI. Heard About us:
friend. Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: light green standard issue pads.
Comments: pads are hard and dont abosorb sweat at all. SPC, US Army.
25 Oct 2011: Hometown: Lindsay. Heard About us: a
fellow soldier. Duties: infantry,combat ops. Current Pads: basic grey issue.
Comments: they are extremely uncomfortable and they freeze and get hard in
cold conditions. SPC, US Army.
24 Oct 2011: Hometown: Eagle River, AK. Heard About us:
A good friend. Duties: Squad Leader, Airborne Infantry, Afghan bound within
the next 6 months. Current Pads: No writing present. Green fabric, hard,
blackfoam. glued together. Plastic bag over the foam that holds in the sweat
and keeps them nice and slimey. Comments: The fabric gets nasty, causes rash
on my boys heads. They get hard when they get cold, soggy when we sweat,
fall out constantly, overall just make it a pain to use a helmet. The
headaches, dont even get me started. My Soldiers deserve better. If I can
only get the 8 pairs for my boys I will happily wear my crappy old pads for
10 more years! Geronimo. SSG, US Army.
23 Oct 2011: Hometown: Caguas, Puerto Rico. Duties:
INFANTRY, CONVOY SECURITY. Heard About us: ONLINE. Current Pads: USED UP
BASIC ISSUE THERE GREEN PADS WITH NSN NUMBER ON IT. Notes: THE REASON
I REQUESTED 25 IS IM SURE THE REST OF THE GUYS WOULD WANT SOME TOO.
SFC, US Army.
21 Oct 2011: Heard About us: Friend. Duties: Infantry.
Current Pads: Unit Pad, NSN:8470-01-546-9415, ACU color, hard as a rock.
Comments: These pads are worthless. They don't last more than a month. After
that month, they give you headaches and irritate your skin. SGT, US Army.
20 Oct 2011: Hometown: Lansdale, PA. Heard About us:
Fellow Soldier. Duties: Recon/Scout Platoon Leader responsible for area
security to include dismounted and mounted patrols and facilitation of local
governance. Current Pads: Gray CIF issue pads-unknown NSN. Comments: Current
pads are rigid and uncomfortable. Issues with durability (rips/seams bust
easily) and overall comfort. 1LT, US Army.
19 Oct 2011: Hometown: Fairfield TX. Heard About us: a
friend. Duties: mechanic, recovery, fueling helo's, convoy. Current Pads:
regular army issue. They are already falling apart. NSN. Comments: Right now
for me and my guys our pads are uncomfortable and falling apart. They also
smell bad. SGT, US Army.
16 Oct 2011: Heard About us: USO at Philadelphia Intl
Airport. Duties: COIN/Humanitarian assistance. Current Pads: MSA. Comments:
After wearing them for one month of pre-mobilization training, it seems that
the pads have not softened up as the original issue pads used to do. New
issue pads are extremely uncomfortable and clothing sales only has the same
brand. 1SG, US Army.
16 Oct 2011: Hometown: Hammond IN. Heard About us:
Google. Duties: Combat Infantry Operations. Current Pads: NSN. Comments: As
of now everyone in my squad to include myself have issues with helmet not
staying in position and constantly having to change pads due to tearing and
frequent headaches. Our unit returned earlier this year and are due to
deploy again soon. We are currently hitting the training very hard and a lot
of my soldiers are spending quite a bit of their own hard earned money on
military gear to make the training and upcoming deployment just a little bit
easier. SSG, US Army.
15 Oct 2011: Hometown: Olney. Heard About us: USO
advertisement. Duties: Civil Affairs. Current Pads: NSN 8470-01-545-7350.
Comments: After a period of constant wear, the pads start to cause a sharp
pain the in the back of my head where there is a lot of contact. SPC, US
Army.
13 Oct 2011: Duties: Medic. Current Pads: Grey, velcro
on back, round top pad, rectangle side pads. Comments: excess pressure on
sides of head, causing headaches after long periods of wear. SPC, US
Army.
11 Oct 2011: Heard About us: fellow soldier. Duties:
convoy. Current Pads: Has no buisenss name on center pad. Comments: The pads
are super hard and make the kevlar not so nice to have on your head. its a
distraction having to move it around All the time. PFC, US Army.
10 Oct 2011: Hometown: Schertz, TX. Heard About us:
Fellow Soldier. Duties: Convoy Movement and pulling Security outside
the wire everyday. Current Pads: Middle Pad no writing but they are gray and
really hard. Gives me headaches. Comments: The pads we are issied are no
good. Gives me headachs I would say within about 45 min of wearing it. You
have to adjust them all the time and they are literally hard as a rock till
they get soaked with sweat. Gross I know but itts what we havee to deal
with. I saw the pads y'all are donating and I think I fell in love. I would
really like to try a set and for sure I will pass the word on. SPC, US Army.
10 Oct 2011: Hometown: SAN DIEGO, CA. Heard About us:
ONLINE. Duties: INFANTRY, CONVOY SECURITY. Current Pads: USED UP BASIC ISSUE
THERE GREEN PADS WITH NSN NUMBER ON IT Comments: THE REASON I REQUESTED 25
IS IM SURE THE REST OF THE GUYS WOULD WANT SOME TOO. SPC, US Army.
8 Oct 2011: Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: NSN.
Comments: They are flattening out. I've only had them for 6 months and it's
to the point that my helmet is lose on my head and it's starting to annoy my
head. SSG, US Army.
6 Oct 2011: Heard About us: I heard about the program
through other Soldiers. Duties: COIN Operations. Current Pads: We currently
use the basic issued pads that come with the ACH which are MSA. Comments:
The issued pads are very firm and don't provide the much needed cushion
while on patrols/missions. CW2, US Army.
4 Oct 2011: Heard About us: friend. Duties: Infantry.
Current Pads: Light Green, Stiff Pads. Comments: No Stability. pressure
points make it uncomfortable. pads do not allow for airflow. Shock
absorption is lacking. overall pads are ineffective. SGT, US Army.
2 Oct 2011: Heard About us: military moms. Duties:
Medic. Current Pads: NSN. Comments: want to see difference . PFC, US
Army.
2 Oct 2011: Duties: Security Force Advisor, Infantry.
Current Pads: Oregon Aero. Comments: Fit and comfort. SGM, US Army.
2 Oct 2011: Heard About us: Peer. Duties: Infantry.
Current Pads: MSA. Comments: Helmet fit and comfort. SSG, US Army.
29 Sep 2011: Hometown: Olympia, WA. Heard About us:
buddy in Kandahar told me. Duties: Embed with Afghan police. Current Pads:
basic issue, no writing on it other than NSN. foilage green in color, cloth
exterior. Comments: the pads seem to wear down and lose resiliency, they
feel like basic foam. SFC, US Army.
29 Sep 2011: Hometown: Shreveport, LA. Heard About us:
internet. Duties: Commander. Current Pads: NSN 8470-01-506-6626. Comments:
Current pads only come in two sizes. So either the helmet doesn't fit, or
regardless of the size and sorting of the pads, you get a headache. The
current pads are too stiff and as mentioned, there should be at least one
more size of pads rather than just two. I'll donate enough for a few sets so
you can continue to provide for our great Soldiers too...keep the program
going. CPT, US Army.
28 Sep 2011: Heard About us: fellow soldier. Duties:
Special Forces operations. Current Pads: ACH original issue pads - they are
too worn to get much information about. Comments: The pads are so worn that
with my Peltor headset on the helmet falls forward over my eyes. SFC, US
Army.
25 Sep 2011: Heard About us: Internet. Duties:
Mechanic/Convoy. Current Pads: i think the NSN is 01-506-6626 its kinda worn
off. Comments: the pads i have are hard and put pressure on parts of my
head. SPC, US Army.
25 Sep 2011: Heard About us: Online at
www.operationwearehere.com
Duties: CSM
[Command Sergeant Major]
Current Pads: NSN 8470-01-548-9415. Comments: The pad on forehead and side
of temple area start burning and itching after 2 or more hours of wearing.
CSM, US Army.
22 Sep 2011: Heard About us: google. Duties: Movement
from KAIA to various posts. Current Pads: UNICOR. Comments: comfort issues
with the helmet sitting on top of the head instead of down on the head and
sliding forward. SGT, US Army.
19 Sep 2011: Heard About us: soldier Duties: recon
Current Pads: army issue Comments: wear out too fast and won't stay still no
matter how tight I make the straps. SGT, US Army.
19 Sep 2011: Heard About us: Google. Duties:
Reconnaissance (Cavalry Scout). Current Pads: They are worn down pretty
good, but they are the regular foliage green Army issue pads. Comments:
After about half an hour of use, my pads start to apply a lot of pressure to
my head causing massive headaches and discomfort. Compared to the memory
foam pads, the Army issue pads feel like cheap, hard plastic; exactly what
they are. I find myself constantly adjusting my ACH and longing to take it
off even though we have not been operating for long (usually we run about
12hours, at least, a day). PFC, US Army.
18 Sep 2011: Duties: AFPAK Hand, Current Pads: Gentex,
NSN 8470-01-506-6626. Comments: Current pads create support gaps and sore
spots. MAJ, US Army.
17 Sep 2011: Heard About us: internet search to buy new
pads cause i currently don't have any and would like to have some waiting on
me when i go home on leave in 12 days. Duties: Logistics Patrols, and
resupply. Current Pads: i currently don't have any in my ACH they were taken
out to get washed and were destroyed by the washer and dryer so i have gone
without for the last week and our unit doesn't have replacements at the
moment however i fount you and was hoping to recieve yours when i get home
for R&R in 12 days. Comments: my old pad was nice and didn't create the
presure point that the 7 pad system creates it was a single non pop-able
bubblewrap dome peice covered in felt, however since it's destruction by the
washer i no longer have pads and seldom wear my ACH unless i have to and the
pain of no pads is worse than the GI issue pads if you can believe it. if
you think you can help me it would be great cause without them when i return
home i have to go to CIF and get issued and charged for a set of pads that
cause me pain. SPC, US Army.
17 Sep 2011: Heard About us: ANOTHER SOLDIER. Duties:
RECON, DISMOUNTED/MOUNTED PATROLS. CONVOY. Current Pads: NSN. Comments: THEY
ARE NOT COMFORTABLE WHEN WORN FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME. SGT, US Army.
16 Sep 2011: Heard About us: platoon leader. Duties:
Infantry. Current Pads: nsn 8470-01-546-9415. Comments: the current pads
fall apart too quickly- they are hard at all times not just when it is cold,
it is causing headaches for numerous soldiers. SGT, US Army.
16 Sep 2011: I am currently deployed in Afghanistan
thank you so much for the new pads for the helmets! I can wear my ACH
without the headaches that fallow after and during the long hours of
missions. Truly is a blessing that there are people who have the soldiers on
their minds and in their prayers. Thank you all! Loyalty, Respect, Honor,
V/R SPC
13 Sep 2011: Heard About us: From a joe in my squad.
Duties: I am an infantryman attached to [xxx] PRT. Current Pads: black on
top gray on the bottom regular issue. Comments: The current pads irritate my
head constantly while on a mission. I am an infantryman and spend a lot of
time outside the wire. I am a gunner and a dismount. PV2, US Army.
13 Sep 2011: Heard About us: GOOGLE. Duties: Focused
Targeting Force INFANTRY. Current Pads: Basic Issue. Comments: NSN
8470-0-1-546-9366. 1LT, US Army.
11 Sep 2011: Duties: Currently doing 12 hours of base
defense/ Convoy ops daily. Current Pads: original from CIF/RFI NSN.
Comments: Current soldiers pads are worn and completely unserviceable. I Got
some of these pads for myself and they are really good pads. Would like a
set for my whole platoon if possible. SGT, US Army.
11 Sep 2011: Heard About us: Fellow Soldiers. Duties:
Mechanic / convoy ops. Current Pads: The current pads we have are black and
green. Comments: The pads we have currently get really hard after a few
months of use. They cause alot of headaches after being worn for a while.
SGT, US Army.
10 Sep 2011: Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: Green on
one side and black on the other. Comments: The are very uncomfortable and
when wearing NVGs the helmets sag in the front. PFC, US Army.
8 Sep 2011: Duties: Combat Medic. Thank you
for an amazing product!!! The pads that the Army issues are garbage, but you
already know that. They are hard, uncomfortable and cause pressure points
which get very annoying if you aren't a POG and actually
have a job that requires you to wear your helmet. After 9 months of wearing
the Army pads in Iraq my section sergeant gave me a set of your pads and
asked me to try them out. As soon as I opened the pack and felt the pads I
couldn't get the old pads out fast enough. The best word that can sum up the
feeling when I put my helmet on after switching the pads is "relief." I felt
unencumbered FINALY!!! With the operation helmet pads their are no more
pressure points, they don't pull on your hair, and actually seem to allow
air to flow. I have spent hundreds of dollars customizing my gear and
equipment so that I feel more comfortable when out in sector and I never
would have thought that these pads would make as much of a difference as
they do. They are amazing. Everyone in our truck uses them and as weird as
it may be the majority of our conversations when out on patrol, for the
first few days using them, were about these pads and how much of a
difference they make. Again, thank you for an amazing product from myself
and the rest of my crew. SPC, US Army.
8 Sep 2011: Duties: driving trucks. Current Pads: they
are green really dirty and feel like foam. Comments: They hold way too much
heat in like the pads soak up the sweet but they also dont allow the sweat
to cool you off. SPC, US Army.
7 Sep 2011: Duties: Communications. Current Pads: msa.
Comments: headache. SSG, US Army.
5 Sep 2011: Heard About us: coworker. Duties: convoy
driver. Current Pads: MSA. Comments: Current helmet gives me a headache.
SPC, US Army.
5 Sep 2011: Army SSG, Unit: 5-4 CAV, 1 ID.
Duties: Scout I absolutely love your pads. A couple of weeks ago you guys
sent some for me and the soldiers in my section. My soldiers and I have
nothing but great things to say, the comment most often hear is "i no longer
feel like i have knives digging into my skull". I keep telling people about
you, I hope it really catches on. Thanks for your contributions they are
much appreciated!
Previously Used: Team Wendy (ZAP or Susquehana)
(note: gov't issue). Rating: 1.
Current Pad: Oregon Aero. Rating: 5
1 Sep 2011: Heard About us: INTERNET. Duties: INFANTRY
(PATROLS, SWEEPS). Current Pads: NSN-REGULAR GRAY ISSUE. Comments: PADS DONT
LAST LONG THE SEAMS ARE SPILTING WHEN YOU TAKE THEM OUT TO WASH THEM.
SPC, US Army.
30 Aug 2011: Heard About us: Google Search. Duties:
Convoy Security. Current Pads: standard issue (grey) - no writing. Comments:
Thank You. SPC, US Army.
29 Aug 2011: Heard About us: on google. Duties:
infantry. Current Pads: issued pads the writing wore off from much sweat and
use they use to be are gray in color looks like it use to be glued i don't
have the covers for them any more. Comments: the gi pads are very hard on my
temple i try to move them but with no success they get very hot and they rip
very wear out very easy... they are constantly smelly and develop mold on
the pads ... PFC, US Army.
20 Aug 2011: Heard About us: TotallyFreeStuff.com.
Duties: Afghanistan National Army Mentor to the [opsec]. Current Pads: Dark
green, soft, words are worn out. Comments: I'm the Platoon SGT for 17 other
guys. Would it be possible to gear for the rest of my Joe's as well. All of
us serve as ANA Mentors. Thank you! SFC, US Army.
19 Aug 2011: Heard About us: aid station. Duties:
Medic providing healthcare to Line unit soldiers. Current Pads: issue
NSN8470-01-546-9415. Comments: I am the 2 platoon medic and the issue pads
are causing multiple headaches for my guys during missions. Sgt, US Army.
18 Aug 2011: Duties: Infantry Current Pads: They are
grey and are stiff, I have had them sin my tour in 09. Comments: These pads
are stiff and are unconfortable they do not absorbe any sweat. They are old
and velcro is coming off . SGT, US Army.
15 Aug 2011: Heard About us: Battle Buddy. Duties:
Scout/Recon. Current Pads: They are the HORRIBLE ARmy issue pads. It feels
like I have daggers going into my head, they get hard and stiff and become
useless fast. Comments: We have to get new pads every few months. I believe
if we wore a better fitting helmet that didn't FLOP all over the place and
had decent pads we would be fine. SSG, US Army.
Update: Thank you for responding so quickly, I apologize for taking so long
to respond but we don't get a whole lot of time to check e-mail lately.
Second I can give you quite a few reasons why the upgraded pads are better:
First, and probably most important in soldiers minds, they are way more
comfortable to wear. Before I upgraded my pads I couldn't keep the helmet on
my head for more than 4 hours without getting a headache, which is
distracting and annoying in combat. Now I can wear my ACH for 18 to 24 and
it doesn't bother me at all. Second, the helmet fits better with the upgrade
especially when wearing NVG's for long periods of time. Even if the
chinstrap comes lose your helmet will hold in place. Third, they are easier
to clean and because of what there made of they don't adopt that "bacterial
growth" smell. Of course there is always the studies that show that the
upgraded pads do a better job of protecting Soldiers during IED blasts and
blunt force to the head, that's why family members like them, however
Soldiers will like them for everyday reasons, if your going to spend half of
every day for a year wearing 80 pounds of gear you do your best to make it
as comfortable as possible. As far as the fund raising goes I'll get with my
CO and see if we might be able to get the FRG involved in some way, their
great at raising money...
15 Aug 2011: Heard About us: Just browsing around on
the internet looking for good/better helmet pads. Duties: Cav scout. Current
Pads: Foliage green basic issue kevlar pads from CIF. Comments: The pads I
currently use suck they get hard and stiff and give me a headache. Just want
some news and better pads, these seem to be pretty good from all of the
reviews that I have read. SGT, US Army.
15 Aug 2011: Heard About us: One of my Platoon Leaders.
Duties: Convoy Security. Current Pads: NSN - 6470-01-506-6626 Size - 3/4.
Comments: After awhile the pads become hard and uncomfortable. 1SG, US
Army.
14 Aug 2011: Heard About us: Battle Buddy. Duties:
Convoys. Current Pads: NSN:8470-01-506-6851, the pads are black in color.
Comments: The current pads we have are worn out. They are flat and sweaty
and dirty. We really could use another pair. 1LT, US Army.
13 Aug 2011: Duties: I will be traveling all across the
OEF AO from
[opsec]
- mainly by ground convoy. Current Pads: MSA pads. Comments: I have been
issued a large helmet and it is extremely uncomfortable and moves when I am
shooting my rifle, I would like to install your pads to stabilize my helmet
to allow an unobstructed field of vision when engaged in returning small
arms fire. MAJ, US Army.
12 Aug 2011: Heard About us: my friend. Duties: mechanic. Current Pads:
skydex. Comments: too much movement don't feel secure. SPC, US Army.
10 Aug 2011: Duties: Convoy,Infantry. Current Pads:
8470-01-546-9416. Comments: while sweating in the they feel alright but when
they dry they feel like as hard as rocks. CPL, US Army.
10 Aug 2011: Duties: Recon active routes. Current Pads:
msa. Comments: uncomfortable after long period of time on missions.
SPC, US Army.
8 Aug 2011: Heard About us: Battle Buddy. Duties:
Infantry. Current Pads: Grey, foam, torn seams. Comments: Headaches,
tearing, and not fitting right on my head. PV2, US Army.
8 Aug 2011: Heard About us: My wife found out about you
on the internet. Duties: Convoy Security. Current Pads: MSA. Comments: My platoon is running convoy security
missions in Southern Afghanistan. On some of the missions they are in their
trucks for up to 14 hours and the pads we currently have caused headaches,
and pain from the pressure on their heads. The undue discomfort causes the
Soldiers to remove their helmet to get some relief. My Soldiers deserve to
have a helmet that they can wear without causing pain and also provide
protection from blast injuries. I would greatly appreciate your assistance
to help me take care of my Soldiers. 1LT, US Army
8 Aug 2011: Heard About us: Fellow Soldier. Duties:
Mechanic. Current Pads: They are black outside with a green inside and come
in three types, 2 square, 4 rectangle, and 1 round one. Comments: To loose
and don't seam to have any actual cushioning to them. PFC, US Army.
8 Aug 2011: Duties: Driver. Current Pads:
8470-01-546-9415. Comments: lost 2 pads and 2 more are tearing. PFC, US
Army.
8 Aug 2011: Duties: convoy commander/NCOIC. Current
Pads: 8470-01-546-9415. Comments: my pads are tearing more and more everyday
SSG, US Army.
7 Aug 2011: Duties: Infantry Current Pads: NSN
Comments: Hard to brake in an uncomforable. SSG, US Army.
7 Aug 2011: Heard About us: uso. Duties: route
clearance. Current Pads: black and green pads. Comments: uncomfortable and
high pressure on points of impact. SSG, US Army.
7 Aug 2011: Duties: Daily patrols. Infantry. Current
Pads: Gentex. Comments: They are too thick and wear out pretty quickly. SGT,
US Army.
7 Aug 2011: Heard About us: Soldier. Duties: Tanker.
Current Pads: MSA. Comments: The pads themselves are fine but after being
here for an extended period of time and leaving the wire everyday the
hygiene of said pads has gone down. My platoon leaves the wire everyday and
it is difficult to clean the pads because of so little down time. The pads
I'm asking for is to be able to have a replacement set to switch out pads as
well as chin strap if available as the chin strap is down stiff and hard
from my sweat and only gets malleable again after wearing it and sweating.
The hygienic value of another set of pads will be a morale booster as well
as overall cleanliness. im only asking for one set but if possible a few for
my fellow battle buddies would be ideal as our supply doesn't order any
replacements for us. SGT, US Army.
6 Aug 2011: Heard About us: Google. Duties: infantry
medic. Current Pads: army issue. Comments: I've always used army issue ones, and now
with the amount of time spent wearing my helmet, they have really become
unbearable, causing many of us to take em off soon as vehicles stop moving
or especially when attaching essiential equipment, the added weight is even
worse for our foreheads. Bottom line: I don't want to be readjusting or be
distracted by my helmet sliping around uncomfortably when treating
casualties. I'm jus thankful there's an organization that recognizes this
problem!! PFC, US Army.
Update 19 Sep 2011: I've been wearing the pads for almost a month now and I
absolutely love em. I gave the second pair you sent to a fellow medic and he
liked them so much he ended up ordering enough for his whole platoon! The
leftovers I distributed among my guys and of all the things I've been
handing out, sunscreen, foot powder, pills, Lamasil, etc, they were
obviously the most excited to receive the new helmet pads! And for good
reason! I've noticed far fewer guys asking for Ibuprofen for those pesky
minor headaches, and I still have soldiers come ask "Hey I heard you were
handing out free pads?" to which I always direct them to the website. I just
wanted to take a moment and say thank you on behalf of all of us. I know our
unit alone has received a fair share of these pads, so thank you to all of
those who donate to make Operation Helmet possible. Your generosity is duly
appreciated by each and every one of us who use these pads on a daily basis!
6 Aug 2011: Heard About us: another soldier. Duties:
PTT, PSD and Convoy. Current Pads: MSA. Comments: falling apart and
uncomfortable. PFC, US Army.
5 Aug 2011: Duties: Tanker. Current Pads: Black Pads
sewn seam and feels like cotton. Comments: My pads personaly are very thin
now and allow my helmet to fit loosely. SGT, US Army.
5 Aug 2011: Heard About us: Buddy. Duties: Sniper.
Current Pads: Color;Tan towards the Kevlar, Black towards the head. Texture;
that of a rock. Comments: Thank you very much. SPC, US Army.
5 Aug 2011: Heard About us: One of my soldiers. Duties:
Infantry. Current Pads: Green felt like pads that are hard and un-forgiving.
Comments: If you know of any places that have chin straps, it would also
help greatly! Thanks for the great service, glad no one has forgotten about
us. God Bless. SGT, US Army.
5 Aug 2011: Heard About us: a good friend in my
platoon. Duties: gunner in a mrap and dismount. Current Pads: nsn. Comments:
they are hard they never form to your head and if i wear them for more then
a hour it starts to hurt my head. SPC, US Army. Followup from
SPC: I dont know how to thank you enought. It means alot to all of us to
know people care.
5 Aug 2011: Duties: convoy. Current Pads: nsn.
Comments: The current pads are okay but the front pad does nothing as far as
keeping sweat from pouring into your eyes. SSG, US Army.
4 Aug 2011: Heard About us: Searching google for better
pads. Duties: Convoy. Current Pads: Comments: We are running one day to week
long convoys. The current pads are causing headaches that last for days
especially for those in the turrets. It is a regular occurrence to remove
your ACH for pain relief. During and days after mission it feels as if there
are bruises directly where the pads lay on your forehead. SPC, US Army
4 Aug 2011: Well we do a lot of dismounted operations
that makes you sweat like crazy. I always see my Soldiers lifting their ACH
off their heads to get some comfort.
3 Aug 2011: Heard About us: FRIEND. Duties: ROUTE
CLEARANCE. Current Pads: CURRENTLY HAVE THE BLACK AND GREEN PADS. VERY SOFT
AND GREAT. WE SWEAT ALOT BUT I DONT HAVE A BAD ODOR FROM THEM. Comments: I
AM ORDERING THEM FOR MY PLATOON. THEY WERE ALL ISSUED THE HARD GRAY PADS
FROM BASIC ISSUE. I AM THE ONLY ONE IN PLATOON WITH THE BLACK AND GREEN
ONES. THEY ALWAYS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE HEADACHES THEY HAVE FROM ACH. I HAVE
NO PROBLEMS WITH THE ONES I HAVE. THEIR ACH'S ALSO SMELL REALLY BAD BECAUSE
THE PADS THEY ARE USING HOLDS THE SMELL. SFC, US Army.
1 Aug 2011: Our Soldiers here live in extremely remote
locations and wear their Helmets most of the time. Between the constant use
and style our pads are in really bad shape. Resupply and ordering is
difficult due to logistical requirements to get stuff to us. Many of our
operations are at night and the NVGs extra weigh really makes the helmets
uncomfortable. Additionally, there is really poor air flow in the areas
where the pads are. This causes them to get dirty faster and irritate the
skin. In the AO were in now there have been many IEDs and even guys shot in
the helmet - you'd think a quality helmet system would be important - not
to mention pushing to get replacements when the issued ones are worn out.
1 Aug 2011: I really appreciate the support you are
giving our Soldiers. I remember the older sets the Army started with and it
was amazing especially after going from the old strap kevlars. I'm not sure
when, but the pads have recently changed - when you wear the newer ones they
mold to a shape and are no longer padding. In the AO were in now there have
been many IEDs and even guys shot in the helmet - you'd think a quality
helmet system would be important - not to mention pushing to get
replacements when the issued ones are worn out. Cpt, US Army
1 Aug 2011: Heard About us: Internet. Duties:
Dismounted patrols in a mountainous regions. Current Pads: NSN:
8470-01-546-9415. Comments: Our Soldiers here live in extremely remote
locations and wear their Helmets most of the time. Between the constant use
and style our pads are in really bad shape. Resupply and ordering is
difficult due to logistical requirements to get stuff to us. Many of our
operations are at night and the NVGs extra weigh really makes the helmets
uncomfortable. Additionally, there is really poor air flow in the areas
where the pads are. This causes them to get dirty faster and irritate the
skin. Thanks for considering our request, CPT, US Army.
31 Jul 2011: Heard About us: Through a Friend. Duties:
Operational Security. Current Pads: Sage pads basic issue. Comments: the
current pads suck, the soak the sweat up become hard, they also hold smell
even after cleaning them. not comfortable they dont mold to your head thats
for sure. SGT, US Army.
31 Jul 2011: Heard About us: Google Search. Duties:
Infantry tasks. I am attached to an infantry squad running combat missions
daily. Current Pads: Standard issue pads in ACH. Sage green pads. Comments:
I am requesting 15 so that i can distribute them among my immediate squad of
guys. If at all possible there is a hand full of additional personnel that
could use them as well. A1C, USAF (Army augmentee)
29 Jul 2011: Heard About us: Google. Duties: Infantry.
Current Pads: Grey in color. Sewn around the edges. Comments: current pads
are hard and uncomfortable, and they always come apart at the seam around
the edges. SPC, US Army.
29 Jul 2011: Heard About us: heard about you on
internet. Duties: military police escorts during the withdrawl of troops
from iraq. Current Pads: skydex. Comments: they're just rather hard and
cause discomfort and pain on the head causing head to become numb after long
periods of time. SPC, US Army.
28 July 2011 Ques: Do you feel the discomfort due to
the helmet pads detract from mission performance? The Army believes that if
a soldier's helmet were properly fitted, the discomfort would go away.
Agree?July 30, 3011 Ans: The discomfort has most distracting affects during
a mission when the only thing going thru ones head is how much longer before
we can take the helmet off. And as far as sizing goes the helmets are made
in different sizes yes but all the pads are the same so regardless if your
helmet fits right due to size the discomfort comes from the pads not the
helmet size. SFC, US Army.
28 Jul 2011: Duties: CONVOY (DELIVERING SUPPLIES TO OUR
INFANTRY PLATOONS). Current Pads: MSA. Comments: IF POSSIBLE I WOULD LIKE TO
REQUEST PADS FOR THE REST OF MY PLATOON, SSG xxx REQUESTED PADS FOR HIS
SECTION A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO FROM YOU. HE TOLD ME ABOUT IT AND I WOULD LIKE
TO GET ANOTHER 15 SETS TO COVER THE REST OF OUR PLATOON IF POSSIBLE. THANKS.
1LT, US Army.
28 Jul 2011: Heard About us: looking for new helmet
pads from google and stumbled on your site. Duties: Contact Team (mechanic).
Current Pads: zap 3/4 pad set pat pending 3fnr9/tw-z90-001 mfg by team wendy
lot no. z2006-747 or z3006 hard to make out. Comments: thank you hopefully
your pads dont give me a headache. im requestion 2 because im getting one
for my battle buddy that is in my hmmwv with me. and that is what a sgt does
take care of his troops. since we are getting deployed in sept thank you.
SGT, US Army. SGT, US Army.
28 Jul 2011: Heard About us: Battle Buddy. Duties:
Medic. Current Pads: Unit Pad, Crown Size 3/4 W911qy-65-d-0001 NSN
8470-01-506-6626 90425 LOT 3266-3. Comments: Uncomfortable. Sweat traps too
well. Moves around easily even when fitted. SPC, US Army.
27 Jul 2011: Heard About us: Friend. Duties: Combat
Advisor deployed with US Army to train/advise Afghan Army. Current Pads: Pad
Helmet, Advanced Combat Helmet, Circular Crown Size 3/4" NSN
8470-01-546-9415, SPM1C1-08-C-B101, 5M888, Lot 03. Comments: Hard on the
scalp after extended periods of usage. Maj, USAF (Army augmentee)
27 Jul 2011: Heard About us: Google. Duties: Mounted
and Dismounted Patrols for the remainder of the tour. Current Pads: Various
pads throughout the Battery. Comments: I just recently received the 20
kevlar upgrade kits that I requested for my Platoon. I want you to know that
the pads are a tremendous relief and all my soldiers are extremely grateful
for these pads. Second, I am requesting an additional 70 kits for the rest
of the Platoons within my Battery. My unit consists of approximately 95
personnel, some of which work the TOC and do not have a need for these kits.
If it is at all possible to fill this additional order, I would greatly
appreciate it, as would the rest of my Unit. SGT, US Army.
26 Jul 2011: Duties: RUNNING CONVOYS. Current Pads: msa.
Comments: I can never get my helmet to fit right, pads are hard as a rock,
and it give me headaches and makes the helmet hit the top of my eye pro.
SSG, US Army.
24 Jul 2011: Heard About us: Another medic in my unit.
Duties: Line Medic in an Infantry Company. Current Pads: Standard US army
issue Comments: My current pads are very stiff..and they give me constant
headaches when I wear my ACH for 2 hours or more. PFC, US Army.
24 Jul 2011: Duties: I am the Platoon Sergeant for
my LTC and his command group PSD. Current Pads: ZAP. green side sticks to
ACH and black side is against the skull. Comments: The current pads say that
they are easy to clean and able to be washed by hand. The ones we have now
fall apart and provide small amounts of protection. It feels like steel
plates against your head. pads smell bad after about the 3rd or 4th washing
even with soap and start to fall apart very quickly if you sweat
excessively. SFC, US Army.
19 July 2011: The biggest complaints I have and so do my
soldiers is the that the pads the army gave us are irritable and itchy,
uncomfortable they weigh heavy on our heads to the point you don't want to
wear your ACH I especially get a head ache and I know my soldiers have
complained about the same. I want my guys to be somewhat comfortable we are
Infantry soldiers and are out in our gear on road patrols and once they are
"broke in" your helmet moves around a lot which also cause discomfort for
us. Any kind of help you can give us would be greatly appreciated. SSG, US
Army.
19 July 2011: Duties: Scout. Current Pads: PAG.
Generic issued pads. Grey, no noticable sewing. Comments: Pads are
uncomfortable and aren't large enough. SPC, US Army.
18 Jul 2011: Duties: Convoy/Medic. Current Pads: NSN
NUMBER NOT READABLE. Black on one side and gray on opposite. Comments: Pads
cause helmet to shift when they're sweaty. SPC, US Army.
18 Jul 2011: Duties: Patrols / Base Defense. Current
Pads: NSN (original from CIF). Comments: Redness/Swelling on forehead.
Washed pads with detergent and no different results. SGT, US Army.
18 Jul 2011: Duties: INFANTRY. Current Pads: GREEN
FLAT PAD. Comments: [need] COMFORT. SSG, US Army.
17 July 2011: I have been wearing the same issued
pads since I came into the Army almost 5 years ago. My last tour was
gruesome because of the pads. I'm always taking my helmet off while we're
out in sector, just to get my head a break. My Platoon SGT has some of these
softer pads and his ACH causes him no problems. The reason I am requesting
20 kits, is so that everyone within my Platoon will have a set, and
hopefully allow them to forget that they have a helmet on and focus more on
the missions that we conduct. SGT, US Army.
Update: I have told a lot of people about the issues we have with the gear
that is required for us to go outside the wire. It seems like a losing
battle, however. The best response I get is, "Too bad, deal with it." Your
operation is the first positive feedback I've gotten since I joined. My
soldiers will all be pleased with these kits, as will the rest of the NCO's
and Officers of my platoon. I thank you in advance for your help and support
of our missions.
17 Jul 2011: Duties: I am preventive medicine and
I travel to all of the COPs, FOBs, and Camps througout Afghanistan's AR
West. Current Pads: Army issue. Comments: The pads I have now are pinching
my head after the first 30min of wearing it. It makes it really
uncomfortable. SPC, US Army.
16 Jul 2011: Duties: Tanker. Current Pads: GI
issue. Comments: I am in the same platoon as pfc mxxxx and spc pxxxx, their
are 21 people in our platoon who are getting around to ordering the pads, if
you could send them all in one package for your convience that would be
great. The GI isuue pads hurt my head and are very uncomfortable. PFC,
US Army.
16 Jul 2011: Duties: Route Security, Dismounted
Presence Patrols. Current Pads: ACU Color, glued together, Standard CIF
Issued pads. Comments: I have been wearing the same issued pads since I came
into the Army almost 5 years ago. My last tour was gruesome because of the
pads. I'm always taking my helmet off while we're out in sector, just to get
my head a break. My Platoon SGT has some of these softer pads and his ACH
causes him no problems. The reason I am requesting 20 kits, is so that
everyone within my Platoon will have a set, and hopefully allow them to
forget that they have a helmet on and focus more on the missions that we
conduct. SGT, US Army.
14 Jul 2011: Duties: Combat Advisors conducting
convoys and long missions outside the wire. Current Pads: MSA. Comments: The
address these will be sent to is my Admin Specialist address while we are at
MOB site and here at Fort xxx for a couple of weeks. The current pads cause
headaches especially for soldiers that have odd shaped heads they also take
a while to break in. Thanks for your support. 1SG, US Army.
13 Jul 2011:Duties: infantry. Current Pads: gi
issue. Comments: they aren't comfortable, stay smelly and are just weak in
general. SPC, US Army.
8 Jul 2011: Duties: Dismounted Patrol Infantry.
Current Pads: Standard. Comments: They dont' keep the form. PFC, US
Army.
7 Jul 2011: Duties: Personal Security
Detail.....provide security to the battalions command team. Everything from
convoy patrols to dismount, to air assaults. Current Pads: MSA, I believe.
My guys have a mixture of different pads. Some are the foliage green and a
few have the black pads. Comments: the issue pads only last 1 or 2 removals
and the backing peels off and the pad will no longer stay in the helmet. Update
13 July 2011: I just received the pads today. Talk about fast! Thank you
so much for getting these out so quickly and my guys loved them. They were
asking me if I had some kind of inside man in the supply system. Said "nope,
just a group of great folks that want to take care of us."
SGT, US Army.
7 Jul 2011: Duties: convoy, medic. Current Pads:
foliage green. Comments: I am medic that goes on convoys daily. Most of my
guys are complaining of head aches, discomfort, itching, and that the pads
are rubbing raw/ hot spots. SPC, US Army.
1 Jul 2011: Duties: Route Clearance / Survey.
Current Pads: Green Round Foam pad, sewn on edges, back has illegible NSN.
Comments: The pads wear out too quickly, you can't wash them without them
falling apart. They fall apart when sweaty, something that happens often in
the desert. SGT, US Army.
30 Jun 2011: Duties: I'm an infantry team leader.
Current Pads: NSN: 8470-01-546-9415. Comments: The ones I have are pretty
old, did not get issued new ones prior to leaving for Afghanistan. Would
appreciate any help you can make to send some replacement pads. Thank you!
SGT, US Army.
Update 19 Jul 2011: I received the helmet pad upgrades today. Thank you guys
very much for your generous donation and I will inform the guys about
filling out the survey online after they have tested the products. The
invoice says 19 but I received 20, I don't know if that helps with your
inventory. Also, I understand that you may only be able to supply so many
units with these pads, however, if your services can provide it, we would
like to request for 11 more in order to complete our platoon of infantrymen/
mortarmen that regularly patrol in our AO. If you're unable to do so, I
completely understand. It's just that some of the guys have seen them and
would also like some for the rest of their squad members, thank you for all
your support, it is very appreciated!
30 Jun 2011: Duties: Infantry Combat Line Medic.
Current Pads: NSN 8470-01-546-9415. Comments: The pads are really hard to
break in and once you finally get them to a good comfort they rip tear and
it just causes many issues. We run 3 patrols a day out of our COP and that
is a lot of time outside the wire and are only issued one set of pads from
the army! PFC, US Army.
30 Jun 2011: Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: MSA.
Comments: Extremely uncomfortable, stiff, they don't absorb sweat well.
SPC, US Army.
29 Jun 2011: Duties: INFANTRY. Current Pads: NSN od
green. Comments: they are stiff and do not support night vision optics.
helmet always slips. SGT, US Army.
24 Jun 2011: Duties: SECFOR. Current Pads: nsn:
8470-01-506-6626. Comments: The pads wear out quickly from everyday use and
smell from all the sweating. MAJ, US Army.
21 Jun 2011: Duties: Infantry line unit. Current
Pads: standard army issued crappy pads. Comments: Currently when we go out
on patrols of 12 hours or more thru the city and green zone, between the
heat, the sweat, and the horrible helmet pads myself along with the guys on
my team get headaches almost every patrol. SPC, US Army.
18 Jun 2011: Duties: TRAINING ANP. Current Pads:
SOME ARE GREEN AND BLACK, OTHER ARE ALL OD GREEN (UNIT PAD CROWN
W911QY-05-D-0001)( NSN 8470-01-546-9415 LOT 0737-4) (NIB/WSIFB) IS WRITEN
INSIDE THE OD GREEN. Comments: JUST OLD, NO LONGER SOFT, SOME GUYS HAVE
HOLES IN THEIRS. SFC, US Army.
16 Jun 2011: Duties: Convoy/Engineer. Current Pads:
Skydex. Comments: Comfort after short use, and no comfort under extreme
movement. SPC, US Army.
16 Jun 2011: Duties: INFANTRY COMPANY XO. Current
Pads: MSA. Comments: The issued pads are extremely painful and rub my skin
raw. Can't concentrate. 1LT, US Army.
16 Jun 2011: Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: Don't
know the brand, most of the writing has been removed through wear and tear,
but they are a light blue
[grey]
orginially with black trim where it's been sewn
[OH comment: sounds like TW or MSA pads].
Comments: Right now the pads are very unforgiving on the forehead,
especially when wearing NODS. They aren't soft at all, sometimes giving us a
headache when wearing them for a long period of time. If you have problems
with my shipping address please just e-mail me. Thank you! PFC, US
Army.
15 Jun 2011: Duties: Afghan Army Advisors. Current
Pads: Black bottom velcro with green pad on top. Comments: I thank you for
considering my Team for your product! SFC, US Army.
13 Jun 2011: Duties: Infantry Current Pads: MSA,
8479-01-546-9415 Comments: Cause helmet to ride high. They are also too hard
and is uncomfortable to wear. 1LT, US Army.
11 Jun 2011: Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: oregon
aero
[none]. Comments: I came late to the unit and the unit was under funded
because of late orders for a deployment so I wasnt given the new eqiupment.
So I have the old Kpot with the webbing inside of it. Thank you for any help
and the great service you guys do for the military. SSG, US Army
7 Jun 2011: Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: NSN.
Comments: Current pads frequently cause head aches after extended use. They
also cause the helmet to move around too much once its worn. Which causes
constant discomfort. 2LT, US Army.
7 Jun 2011: Duties: Convoy Security. Current Pads:
crap. Bluish/Green standard issue army pads. Comments: I get headaches from
the pads. I get padburn. SPC, US Army.
29 May 2011: My name is [xxx] and I would like to
make a request for a helmet upgrade. I have tried to click the request
button but it would not work on your website. I could be that I am using my
phone but anyways. I am currently at Fort Polk for JRTC and completed the
rotation and in 2 or so weeks I will be going on my first tour to
Afghanistan but my second tour all together. Now to talk about the issued
pads that I have been wearing for almost 6 years and let me tell you that
these pads are by far the worst things that could be put in them. The
problem is the pads are to stiff for one. I am a medium but the pads make me
feel like I am wearing a small. I started my last tour with all my pads and
slowly started to remove and adjust my pads at least every other day. I kept
thinking why I was continuing to have headaches all the time but I just
continued to wear them and thought it may have been from wearing my gear. I
am an infantry man and will be outside the wire everyday most likely. I only
wear 3 pads now because the pain is annoying and I am using a bandana from
my helmet from moving around. Please let me know if you can help! I think
what you guys are doing is great. I am lucky that I stumbled across this
site. US Army.
29 May 2011: hello I've been reading on your web
site and I would like to see about getting a set of your helmet pads- I
can't ever seem to get my helmet to ever fit right and it's especially hard
when I have NODs on. this is a problem when it come to performing night
operations because my helmet always is falling forward and is uncomfortable
. I'm due to be in country in Afghanistan mid June and didn't know how about
to get a set. SPC, US Army.
25 May 2011: Duties: Small Recon Team Leader.
Current Pads: Black sewn seam, standard issue. Comments: wont let the helmet
sit correct, very uncomfortable. SGT, US Army.
22 May 2011: Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: NSN:
8470-01-546-9415. Comments: I talked with my squad leader and he suggested
getting new pads, and suggested going on line to find them. I was told about
a site and i believe it is this site that would send them to you and those
that have gotten them from this site have only said good things about them..
thank you for your support.. everything helps when your in the muck..
SPC, US Army.
21 May 2011: Duties: infantry. Current Pads: its
black pads with green on the flatside. Comments: the pads are really old and
they wont stick to the velcro anymore. SPC, US Army.
(OH Note: recommended they contact CIF first)
15 May 2011: Duties: infantry. Current Pads: skydex.
Comments: hurt my head and getting old. SSG, US Army.
15 May 2011: Duties: INFANTRY. Current Pads: GRAY
ISSUED ONES. Comments: THE PADS I HAVE NOW ARE OLD AND WORN DOWN. PFC,
US Army.
15 May 2011: Duties: I want to personally thank you
for your support of our Soldiers down range. I am an Army chaplain working
out of Fort xxx. In just a matter of days our unit will deploy for a one
year tour to Afghanistan. Could we please be placed on the list for care
packages? My unit's troop strength is around 700 Soldiers. Any help your
organization could offer is both valued and appreciated. God bless you and
your efforts.
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I am a unit chaplain and will be visiting Infantry Soldiers at various COPS.
Current Pads: standard issue. Comments: Request support. Chaplain,
CAPT, US Army.
14 May 2011: Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: Its a
grey pad with stitches around the edges its a rough fabric that velcros in
place. Comments: Dont last long and once they soak up enough sweat you cant
wash them out without ruining them. SGT, US Army.
14 May 2011: Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: ACU
type basic issue foam pads. Comments: Causing friction on temples and helmet
induced hair loss. SPC, US Army.
13 May 2011: Duties: convoy, medic, construction.
Current Pads: NSN: 6470-01-546-9356. Comments: Pads are causing headaches
and are very uncomfortable to wear on long convoys or on construction sites.
SPC, US Army.
12 May 2011: Duties: Guard. Current Pads: MSA.
Comments: The pads really hurt your head and break down very quickly so that
the helmet falls into your eyes, We have at least 18 fulltime guard that
would need something different. SPC, US Army.
10 May 2011: Duties: EOD. Current Pads: nsn
8470013469407. Comments: thay are causing headachs, and make it hard
to wear the helmet for long missions. SGT, US Army.
9 May 2011: Duties: I am infantry, we talk to the
civilians in the city around the FOB. Current Pads: It is grey with a spunge
texture. Comments: they give me a rash on my forehead. PFC, US Army.
9 May 2011: Duties: MEDIC. Current Pads: NSN.
Comments: CURRENT PADS CHANGE SHAPE FROM DAY TO DAY AND FLATTEN OUT
THROUGHOUT THE DAY CAUSING CONSTANT HELMET ADJUSTMENTS. THEY ALSO ABSORB
ODOR VERY QUICKY AND SMELL HORRIBLE BY THE END OF THE DAY. I'LL BE DEPLOYING
THE FIFTEENTH SO I WOULD APPRECIATE THEM AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. THANK YOU!
PFC, US Army.
6 May 2011: Duties: Infantry Team Leader. Current
Pads: green pads with hook pile tape as backing. Comments: I have had the
same pads since i was issued the ach 4 yrs ago. The pads are simply worn out
and torn up. SGT, US Army.
6 May 2011: Duties: Medic. Current Pads: Army
Standard issue, gray. Comments: My pads after using them for around 3 months
they started creating a rash on my head, after repeated washing they smell
would not go away, and the chin straps were just as bad, they were way to
absorbent. About to leave for a year and would like 2 kits if possible to i
can clean and trade them out but if i can only get one that would be okay, i
just need something different then the GI pads! PFC, US Army.
6 May 2011: Duties: Convoy operations. Current Pads:
Gentex corporation. Comments: There are not enough pads for the helmet to
fit snugly on my head, therefore it is loose and wobbles around. Because it
isn't snug it also creates pressure points on the one small area the helmet
happens to be resting on. SPC, US Army.
1 May 2011: Duties: I maintain systems in three
different location and I would often convoy out to those location when
repair or maintenance needs to be done. Current Pads: Black color. 7 pieces
and are very solid. Comments: Mainly because everytime I wear my ACH I would
get a headache after in about 2 hours. SPC, US Army.
30 Apr 2011: Duties: Traffic Control Points. Current
Pads: Oregon Aero size 6 / Skydex (green/black) mixture. Comments: my
current pad set is more than several years old and in really bad shape and
mis matched due to missing items. Most seem as if they have popped. The pads
are really expensive as is the chin strap system and I cannot afford to
replace them and my unit will not supply them. I currently have the old chin
strap system that does not fit correctly or comfortably and is very old and
falling apart. Any help you can give will be greatly appreciated. SGT, US
Army.
28 Apr 2011: Duties: Patrol, Convoys with Afghan
Police. Current Pads: Hard grey velcro pads. Comments: The current pads don't
hold the kevlar in place on the head very comfortable nor do they provide
stability during long convoys or patrols. SSgt, US Army.
28 Apr 2011: Duties: Infantry/Artillery. Current
Pads: They are grey. They are the hard original army issued pads. There are
four rectangle pads, two square pads, and the top round pad. Comments: First
of all thank you for the support. The number one problem is the hardness of
the pads. There are around 300 soldiers in my unit and most of us all have
the same problem. Thank you again. SPC, US Army.
28 Apr 2011: Thank you for
supporting the troops. Your organization provides a great service to us all.
It is a shame DoD hasn't put it's money where there mouth is, and made the
higher quality pads standard issue. All the safety requirements imposed upon
us and.....they send us to combat with substandard helmets. All the money
I've seen wasted by DA could easily supply every service member with 2 sets
of improved pads and a quality H or X harness for their respective ballistic
helmets. I will be taking donations from the team in order to help your
organization. I have also ordered the ops-core x harness and will be testing
it in conjunction with the new pads. Another team mate will be testing the
ops-core h harness. If you would like feedback on the harnesses please let
me know, as the problem with the ACH/MICH extends to the harness as well.
The standard issue harness is worthless while wearing nods. Once again you
are greatly appreciated by all the service members you help.
(Note: We do not ask troops for donations)
28 Apr 2011: Duties: Personnel. Current Pads: Color
is olive green. Comments: Just old and need to be replaced. CPL, US Army.
27 Apr 2011: Duties: infantry. Current Pads: issue.
Comments: they are hard and hurt. specially after wearing it for hours on
end. PV2, US Army.
26 Apr 2011: Duties: foot patrols. Current Pads: nsn.
the acu gray ones you get at cif. Comments: i am requesting 12, one for each
member of our oda
[Operational Detachment Alpha]. the helmet is the worst piece of gear we
have to wear. add nods and it will crush your soul. headaches are the norm,
and situational awareness is abandoned when wearing the helmet. SSG,
US Army.
24 Apr 2011: Duties: Route Clearance. Current
Pads: not sure what type there made of material to stick to the velcro thats
inside of my ach, squares, pretty soft, black, long piece for the front of
my head. Comments: they give me headaches pretty bad. PFC, US Army.
24 Apr 2011: Duties: Infantry. Current Pads:
NSN6470-01-506-6626. Comments: They hold in sweat leading to hot spots. Also
they bunch up in the front causing your rhino mount to scrape your forehead.
You also cant wash them without leaving them out in sun to dry for at least
6 hours which is not an option. SGT, US Army.
23 Apr 2011: Duties: I am a communication
specialist. I am attached to an Engineer Company and we are always out on
patrols in various villages. My current pad are uncomfortable to wear with
my hair up in a bun and I can never get them to be comfortable for me. My
fellow soldiers need new pads since theirs are worn and torn. Can you please
help us! Current Pads: My current pads are grey and black. I am not
sure about the other info. Comments: They are difficult with my hair
up in a bun. SGT, US Army.
21 Apr 2011:
I wanted to take a few
minutes to thank you and the Civil Air Patrol Cadets who helped provide the
funding for our replacement helmet pads sent through Dr. Meaders. We are
currently performing IED removal in Afghanistan and our platoon has taken 26
hits on our vehicles and personnel since October. Our old pads were terrible
and gave us migraines and headaches through days and days of missions. The
new ones are great and the helmet sits on our head like a pillow. Anyways,
long story short my platoon greatly appreciates what you have done for us.
Tell your Cadets that we truly appreciate their help and they have made
a huge difference for us. Attached is
a picture of our company, a picture of our platoon, and a picture of me
receiving a purple heart for a blast that blew out my ear drum and gave me a
concussion. Since then the pads gave me terrible migraines. The pads you
provided us with have fixed my headaches and I have received so many great
comments from the others who received them. Thank you again so much! (Following a Civil Air Patrol
Cadet fund raising effort in Kingswood, Texas)
20 Apr 2011: I've noticed my guys loosen their
chinstraps to the point where I question whether the helmet would stay on if
it took any kind of hit. They do this to attempt to make themselves more
comfortable as a result of the issued pads being so uncomfortable. I have
also noticed that the pads will compress after about a month's use and never
return to their original shape, making me question the pad's ability to
prevent any kind of brain injury in the event of any kind of trauma to the
head. 1Lt USArmy
20 Apr 2011: The current pads we have are made of a
completely different foam material that does not conform to the various
shapes and sizes of the person wearing the ACH. Often times it causes not
only discomfort, but severe headaches while on patrol. These headaches can
severely hamper my platoons abilities to put the necessary people "on the
ground" to conduct dismounted IED clearance, and should they become engaged,
limit the amount of personnel required to respond appropriately and timely.
My hope is that these pads will ensure my platoon's ability to operate at
the highest level of vigilance with regards to their mission, and not worry
about the comfort ability that they lack.
21 Apr 2011: Duties: route clearance patrols.
Current Pads: MSA. Comments: these pads r very hard and smell horriable. we
ride in vics for 12-14 hours a day and these pads cause headaches and itch
badly. PFC, US Army.
20 Apr 2011: Duties: Infantry in NE Afghanistan.
Current Pads: NSN. Comments: They are uncomfortable and lose their
cushioning. 1LT, US Army.
19 Apr 2011: Duties: Route Clearance/ Dismounted IED
Clearance. Current Pads: MSA. Comments: The current pads are causing severe
rubbing and discomfort. We heard your pads are much more comfortable and
shock absorbent, given our mission we would appreciate your assistance.
CPT, US Army.
19 Apr 2011: Duties: Convoy. Current Pads:
Skydex. Comments: pads fit so tight i get headaches and it is not
comfortable at all. SGT, US Army.
17 Apr 2011: Duties: Infantry. Current Pads:
NSN 8470-01-546-9415. Comments: When it is cold they get very hard.
SFC, US Army.
16 Apr 2011: Duties: Forward Observer. Current Pads:
black and with some grey ones. Comments: they just dont feel that great.
SGT, US Army.
16 Apr 2011:Duties: We are PSD for our Commander and
Command Sgt Major. Current Pads: NSN: 8470-01-546-9415. Comments: The
current pads we have constantly hurt my head after every mission, i get
headaches, and now it is getting hotter, it hurts more, and feels like my
head shrinks... I know soldiers in my platoon would second what I say. PFC,
US Army.
14 April 2011:
Dear Dr Meaders and the rest of the
Operation Helmet Team: I’ve been meaning to send along this thank you for
several weeks. I hope you’ll forgive my procrastination & accept my
gratitude for the helmet pads you sent. They went extremely fast! I hope you
understand& know that your impact is enormous. You are NOT indirectly
affecting their morale & quality of life here-your contributions affect them
directly! Please know that the Ft. Hood-based 1st Cavalry
Division Soldiers are appreciative of what you do. Thanks again! God Bless
You! (Chaplain, Camp Liberty, Iraq).
14 Apr 2011: Duties: Infantry (Heavy Weapons Co.).
Current Pads: Size Med. ACH, the pads have NSN written on them. Comments:
The current pads dont fit well as they are to stiff, this also causes the
helmet to be extremely uncomfortable for extended wear, I would rather not
wear it most days. PFC, US Army.
13 Apr 2011: Duties: Civil Affairs. Current Pads:
issued sage green ones. Comments: headaches, and unable to keep a good fit.
SFC, US Army.
13 Apr 2011: Duties: convoy/ construction. Current
Pads: MSA. Comments: the pads absorb sweat and become very hard, that makes
them uncomfortable when we have to wear them 10-14 hours a day. PFC,
US Army.
11 Apr 2011: Duties: Infantry, SECFOR, outside wire
mounted/ dismounted patrols. Current Pads: MSA 3/4''. Comments: Pads are
uncomfortable. Squeeze the top of my head enough to numb the top of my head
and give me a headache. Leaving red marks. I've moved them all around the
inside of the ACH and still uncomfortable. Worried about wearing it all day
outside of the wire. SPC, US Army.
11 Apr 2011: Duties: Preventive Medicine Inspections
and Surveys. Current Pads: NSN. Comments: Uncomfortable. MAJ, US Army.
10 Apr 2011: Duties: 19D, CAV SCOUT, RECON TROOP.
Current Pads: STANDARD ISSUE GREY, MSA? INK IS ALL WORN OFF. Comments: I AM
ORDERING THE 15 SET'S FOR ALL MY JOE'S. STANDARD ISSUE PADS WEAR OUT
QUICKLY, PADDING IT TOO STIFF AND UNCOMFORTABLE. SGT, US Army.
10 April 2011: The issued ones "work" but not nearly
as well as we want them too. They start out too stiff, wearing down and
loose the cushion effect rather quickly, even more so in the heat when we're
out sweating in them. Most of My soldiers tend to leave out 1/3 to half the
of the issued set of pads to the helmets will fit better and not cause so
many headaches, which in turn lessons the cussion effect if they take a head
impact.
10 Apr 2011: Duties: Dismounted Mortar Platoon.
Current Pads: Regular all green GI pads. Comments: They are uncomfortable
and do not provide enough support. 1LT, US Army.
9 Apr 2011:
Duties: Medic. Current Pads: I dont know, helmet in hooch. Comments: They're
too tight on my head, and they rub in spots, and i cant adjust them
properly. SPC,US Army.
8 Apr 2011:
Duties: Engineer Route Clearance. Current Pads: gray pads, sewn seam,
squishy yet hard texture. Comments: Headaches, discomfort after prolonged
wear. SFC, US Army.
7 Apr 2011:
Duties: EOD. Current Pads: Issued Pads. No information on them.
Comments: Headaches, no room for headsets, pushes safety glasses. SGT, US
Army.
5 Apr 2011:
Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: MSA. Comments: Uncomfortable. Causes
headaches after extended use, along with soreness due to stiffness of pads.
SGT, US Army.
5 Apr 2011:
Duties: Dismounted Patrols. Current Pads: MSA. Comments: Current pads remain
hard no matter how long you wear them. They do not conform well to the head.
Thank you very much! 1LT, US Army.
4 Apr 2011:
Duties: ROUTE CLEARANCE. Current Pads: I HAVE MSA. Comments: I DO ROUTE
CLEARANCE WE CLEAR ROUTES IN IRAQ OF IED'S SO WE SPEND 6 TO 8 HOURS A NIGHT
IN OUR TRUCKS DRIVING SO ON AVERAGE WE WEAR ARE HELMETS 6 TO 10 HOURS AT A
TIME WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO REMOVE THEM WHEN THEY HURT OR ARE UNCOMFORTABLE
DO TO THE SAFETY RISK OF AN IED GOING OFF NEAR ARE TRUCKS MY PADS CAUSE THE
FRONT OF MY HEAD TO HURT ANDTHE SKIN TO GO NUMB A BIT ON MY FOREHEAD I HAVE
REMOVED SOME OF MY PADS AND RUN WITHOUT THEM BECAUSE THEY PUT ALOT OF HARD
PRESSURE ON MY TEMPLES AND IT GIVES ME HEADACHES SO IM JUST LOOKING TO GET A
BETTER PAD FOR MORE COMFORT AND SO I CAN RUN ALL THE PADS FOR MY SAFETY
WITHOUT GETTING HEADACHES. SGT, US Army.
31 Mar 2011:
Duties: It is battle circulation teams in carge of convoy security about
four times a week. Current Pads: NSN number: 8470-01-649-9416, made by
Gentex Corp. Comments: Flat, hard and does not stay in place on heads of
soldiers. SPC, US Army.
31 Mar 2011:
Duties: Convoys. Current Pads: Green pads velcroed in.. semi- soft texture.
Comments: Not comfortable at all.. When my mine roller hits bumps my head
feels everyone of them. SPC, US Army.
28 Mar 2011:
Duties: Route Clearance Package. Current Pads: MSA. Comments: Due to the
lack of comfort with the current pads, helmets are not worn as tightly as
needed which greatly increases the risk of concussions/TBI. PFC, US Army.
18 March 2011:Due
to the lack of comfort with the current pads, helmets are not worn as
tightly as needed which greatly increases the risk of concussions/TBI.
19 Mar 2011:
Duties: Convoy Team, PSD. Current Pads: NSN 8470-01-506-6626. Comments: The
pads are wearing out from everyday use causing the soldiers in the team to
readjust their helmets. A couple soldiers dislike the comfort level of the
pads. Once they get pushed in they stay that way and never go back to their
originial state. SGT, US Army.
16 Mar 2011:
Duties: Combat Medic. Current Pads: nsn 8470-01-546-9415. Comments:
Discomfort after wearing for prolonged periods. Numbness on fore head. Have
had new pads back lining rip apart from the top lining during initial period
of moving them around to get good fitting. After awhile the pads loose their
foaminess and become hard in a contour the shape of your head. SPC, US Army.
15 Mar 2011:
Duties: PSD, security escort, convoys. Current Pads: No writing, grey
colored pads. Comments: The pads are cheaply made, they are tearing apart at
the seams, and my unit supply can't seem to get any on-hand. SPC, US Army.
15 Mar 2011:
Duties: mounted/dismounted patrols in Afghanistan. Current Pads: nsn
8470-01-546-9056. Comments: pads are hard for first 30 min of wear, and
don't hold helmet steady. causes pressure on sides of head after pads soften
up. SPC, US Army.
13 Mar 2011:
Duties: driver. Current Pads: green very stiff and smooth felt. Comments: we
can not keep our kevlars on for more then a few hours it gets very cold here
in the winter so the pads get very stiff and have never gone back to how
they were. it sits to high on my head and doesnt cover the back of my neck.
PFC, US Army.
13 Mar 2011:
Duties: Logistic mission as well as mechanic work. Current Pads: UNIT PAD,
CROWN SIZE SPM1C1-D7-C-F191 3/4" NSN 8470-01-546-9415 9U425 LOT 1907-4.
Comments: They are not exactly soft and when having to be in the ACH with
Eyepro on for long periods of time they cause headaches. SGT, US Army.
13 Mar 2011:
Duties: BATTALION RECOVERY ASSET Current Pads: NSN 8470-01-648-0407 THEY ARE
THE GREY UNIVERSAL COLOR PADS Comments: THERE HARD AS A ROCK, VERY
UNCOMFORTABLE TO WEAR. SPC, US Army.
11 Mar 2011:
Duties: Commo, Civil Affairs Teams, Mechanic. Current Pads: Gray in color
and foam filled and brushed velvet type of material. Comments: With our unit
constantly do long mission. The current pads are cause headaches. And
constant operating long missions the headaches and be completely
uncomfortable, makes the mission harder to focus at the task at hand. SSG,
US Army.
9 Mar 2011:
Duties: I'm the chaplain's assistant with our Cav unit. While I don't need
the pads I would like them for the guys that are going outside the wire with
the most regularity, the LTC's personal security detachment. There are
several hundred troops who go out, but they go out the most . Current Pads:
the ink has worn off, but they are a steel grey pad, one circular pad in the
center, two trapezoidal pads and four rectangles. The material starts off
soft, but it goes hard pretty quick and doesn't go soft again after washing.
Comments: The dog-gone things push the helmet over your eyes. I know with
the helmet design you need the pads, but with the new IOTVs they need to
change the helmet design. You can't go prone and still see. SPC, US Army.
8 Mar 2011:
Duties: Patrols. Current Pads: MSA. Comments: Our Pads Are hard while on
patrols they push against our heads and brings pain. PFC, US Army.
7 Mar 2011:
Duties: Battle Field Circulations, Air Operations Current Pads: UNIT PAD,
CROWN SIZE 3/4'' NSN: 8470-01-545-241S LOT: 2087-4 Comments: Dont have to
many problems with the current pads except comfort. SGT, US Army.
6 Mar 2011:
Duties: Civil Affairs... Patrol with Infantry and interact with locals.
Current Pads: Grey hard pads. Comments: I just get really bad headaches.
SPC, US Army.
5 Mar 2011:
Duties: Construction Engineering. Current Pads: Issued pads. green,
felt-like material. Comments: The existing issued pads hurt my head after
awhile. I was told that your pads are more comfortable. WO1, US Army.
5 Mar 2011:
Duties: Joint patrols with the Afghan Army and Afghan Boarder Patrol.
Current Pads: grey in color feels almost like plastic is on the inside when
you try to squeeze it. Comments: Headaches from pressure points in the pads,
and after they are worn for a short time they become hard and doesnt hold
the ACH securely to the head. (these are the major complaints from my
soldiers in my squad). SGT, US Army.
3 Mar 2011: Doc Bob, I
wanted to take a minute to tell you thank you for the helmet pads you had
sent me before I deployed. On June 28th, 2010 I was driving the lead vehicle
in my convoy and was ambushed in a complex attack. A RPG hit 6 inches from
my head penetrating my window and injuring me, I was also hit by an IED on
the driver side. I am positive that the padding you provided me with helped
save my life. M.
1 Mar 2011: Duties: Dismounted EOD operations.
Current Pads: nsn 8470-01-546-9415. Comments: The current helmet pads are
uncomfortable and they pull out your hair. The pads also are unreliable due
to being stiff when not worn for a day or two and then softening up after
extended use. This leads to constant adjusting of the helmet which is not a
good practice outside of the wire. The helmet pads also cause headaches
during long periods of wear and cause hot spots. SGT, US Army.
27 Feb 2011:
Thank you so much for helping. I have been hit by eight IED's now and the
headaches from that nowhere compare to the headaches from my helmet pads. It
is so nice to see someone who cares as much as this organization. I hope you
can help us. Thank you! Duties: Route Clearance, IED Removal. SGT,
US Army
24 Feb 2011: Duties: Combat Advisor.
Current Pads: NSN-original issue new model pads. Comments: Become hard in
the cold and fall apart after extended wear. MAJ, US Army.
17 Feb 2011: Duties: We are a Reserve Civil
Affairs company that will be doing direct support missions in Afghanistan.
We are leaving this Spring. Current Pads: Foliage green color. glued in.
Hard as rocks until you warm them up via sweat. Comments: The current pads
do not hold up. The way they fit causes the helmet to ride too high and put
a lot of pressure on your head. During my last deployment, I had to get them
wet to soften them up so they'd fit right and be somewhat comfortable. By
asking for these pads now, I'm trying to ensure that the guys in my company
are taken care of before we have issues like last time. THANK YOU SO VERY
MUCH for doing this program! SSG, US Army.
15 Feb 2011: Duties: Stability Transition Team.
Current Pads: Issued, Digital ACU Green color, smooth. Comments: Really hard
and gives me headaches. MAJ, US Army.
15 Feb 2011: Duties: EOD Team Leader. Current
Pads: I personally have the Oregon Aero, but other members of my unit have
the green tops with the black bottoms, with an internal honeycomb texture
with a sewn seam. Comments: We will be deploying to RC East in Afghanistan
running daily dismount ops, disabling IEDs. because of our dismount option
the bomb suit will not be present putting us at greater risk to blast
effects. Also in Cold weather the pads get stiff and hard until warmed up.
SSG, US Army.
10 Feb 2011: Duties: EOD Team Leader. Current
Pads: MSA black pads that came with the ACH. Comments: They are very
uncomfortable. They are stiff and I need to constantly move the position of
the pads. However, the back of the pad is constantly peeling off because it
does not remove from the velcro. I have to be very careful when removing the
pads. One pad will not stick onto the velcro so I am 1 pad short. They are
not very durable in my opinion. SSG, US Army.
8 Feb 2011: Duties: Transportation Management
Coordinator. Current Pads: Army issue pads. Comments: The current pads we
are using are very uncomfortable and it is give me a lot of headache and
stress. I have to wear my helmet during our missions and its just not
possible to wear it no more than 1 hour. PFC, US Army.
4 Feb 2011: Duties: Infantry Scout Sniper Section
Leader. Current Pads: MSA. Comments: The old issued ones were so much
better! But mine wore out quickly and the new ones the Army issues are
garbage. They're way too hard. SSG, US Army.
4 Feb 2011: Duties: Combat Engineer, Squad
leader, Route Clearance, and Route Sanitaion. Current Pads: I have 7
soldiers that still have the old style pads they are foilage green and the
seams are glued together. Comments: the pads get hard, they stink even after
you wash them, they rip at the seams. SGT, US Army.
3 Feb 2011: Duties: AbramsTank Gunner, MRAP
gunner. Current Pads: Green Hard ones. Comments: Headaches on long
missions..... too many pads must be worn at once so they squash your head
while wearing the ach... would like one for each of the MRAP gunners if its
possible since we wear it the most. SPC, US Army.
2 Feb 2011: Duties: I go outside the wire as
needed. we respond to emergencies with other units, IDF, clear caches, and
go after insurgenens. Current Pads: I have a regular ACH, size M/L and good
helmet pads would be great. Comments: Don't fit well. SPC, US Army.
2 Feb 2011: Duties: Technical Escort (EOD).
Current Pads: Black pads, no writing, have had them since 2008. Comments:
Pads are close to mush now, no stability, they also are ackwardly sized for
ACH. SPC, US Army.
1 Feb 2011: Duties: infantry. Current Pads: i
have the basic issue pads. Comments: the pads made me break out on my
forehead for a month i couldnt train i couldnt do much of anything we are
about to leave and im still playing catch up. SPC, US Army.
1 Feb 2011: Duties: Infantry 11B. Current Pads:
modular NSN. Comments: Removable pads are falling apart I have 3 left.
SPC, US Army.
31 Jan 2011: Duties: Infantry Squad Leader.
Current Pads: NSN 8470-01-546-9356. Comments: Discomfort. SSG, US
Army.
29 Jan 2011: Duties: Military Intel. Current
Pads: standard issue green foam pads 1 circle, 2 square and 4 rectangular.
Comments: Original pads cause headaches and I am going to deploy again in 3
weeks to AFG. Heard these new pads would be good to test out and if they
work, recommend to my unit that will be deploying next year. 1LT, US
Army.
27 Jan 2011: Duties: Infantry / CBRND. Current
Pads: Bags already packed for Deployment, but they are the original Issued
pads, there Black. Comments: My Platoon including my Maintenance guys is
27... if too many kits please let me know. Thank you for your support. The
current Pads that my platoon have been using are too firm, and uncomfortable
to wear while running. This deployment will really step up the game if we
can find a more reliable solution. Sgt, US Army.
27 Jan 2011: Duties: Artillery, conveys, Patrols.
Current Pads: NIB SABVI. Comments: Uncomfortable when on a long mission. PFC,
US Army.
26 Jan 2011: Duties: Infantry Team Leader.
Current Pads: NSN 8470-01-546-9407. Comments: The pads I currently wear are
very stiff, especially in cold weather, and cause discomfort. The pads are
so thick and stiff it makes my helmet feel like it is sitting way too high
on my head. SGT, US Army.
26 Jan 2011: Duties: Infantry Team Leader.
Current Pads: Standard issue; all grey; hard; one circular, 2 squares, and 4
rectangles. Comments: They're just all very hard and difficult to break in.
The front of the helmet always falls forward when wearing night vision. It
gets pretty cold in the mornings before patrol and the pads get even more
stiff where it makes it difficult to wear the ACH properly. SGT, US
Army.
25 Jan 2011 Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: Black
and smooth. Comments: I never really realized that there was an issue with
the pads that we are issued. That was until we were switched to a sector
that was at high altitudes that had much colder temperatures. I have noticed
that the pads get hard and cause headaches for my soldiers. I sure hope
these pads can help. I thank you for you time and dedication to this issue.
I just want my guys to be able to leave their helmets on all of the time and
stay safe. SGT, US Army.
25 Jan 2011 Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: NSN
8470-01-546-9415. Comments: They are very uncomfortable. I feel like
circulation sometimes stops when I have my ACH on for a long period of time.
PFC, US Army.
24 Jan 2011: Duties: EOD tech. Current Pads: army
issue. Comments: they create hotspots on head and are terrible
uncomfortable. SGT, US Army.
24 Jan 2011: Duties: I am going out side the wire
doing convoy. Current Pads: The NSN. Comments: the pads are hard and they
give me a head ache. SFC, US Army.
20 Jan 2011: Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: MSA.
Comments: Wearing the ACH for long hours results in severe discomfort at the
end of the day; just in time to put it on again for a night mission or the
next day. Its not intolerable, but its one more factor that works against
us. It would be nice to actually have a comfortable helmet. 1LT, US Army.
20 Jan 2011: Duties: infantry. Current Pads:
oregon aero. Comments: pad are worn and torn ... same with another Soldier.
SPC, US Army.
20 Jan 2011: Duties: DISMOUNTED INFANTRY. Current
Pads: MSA. Comments: CURRENT PADS ARE TO HARD AND UNCOMFORTABLE. SFC,
US Army.
18 Jan 2011: Duties: mechanic. Current Pads:
Regular PASGT suspension. Comments: I have a soldier that lost his ACH.
There are no helmets in the supply system in Iraq. He has been issued a
PASGT and as the unit safety officer, I am trying to get him the PASGT liner
upgrade kit. We only have four months left in country, so no one is willing
to take time to try to get him an ACH. Thank you for your help. CW4,
US Army.
18 Jan 2011: Duties: Forward observer, report and
observe possible attacks on the JSS. Current Pads: NSN- 8470-01-54S-9356
they are gray. Comments: they suck and they get super hard when it is cold.
my current pads hurt my head when i wear my ach longer then 2 hours. i have
to wear my ach for 12 hours to 15 hours a day on the op. i have to take meds
to make my headace go away from wearing my ach that long. the current pads i
have are hard and never shape to my head and its pushes in on my head.
PFC, US Army.
18 Jan 2011: Duties: Infantry Current Pads:
Foliage colored, stiff, cotton-like material, basic issue. Comments: The
current pads I am using were issued to me with the ACH. They cause major
discomfort after about an hour of use along my forehead and the back of my
head. The stiffness of the pads makes tightening the helmet even more
uncomfortable. SPC, US Army.
17 Jan 2011: Duties: mechanic, recovery, convoy
Current Pads: basic issue green? back that attaches to velcro is pulling off
glued together? (helmet is in motor pool locker right now) Comments: falling
appart/cheeply made, (usual lowest bidder quality). PFC, US Army.
16 Jan 2011: Duties: Mounted and dismounted
patrols. Current Pads: SKYDEX. Comments: Current pads are hard and
uncomfortable, the also cause the ACH to "ride high" on the head. I'm a
Platoon Sergeant and will give a set of these new pads to each Soldier in my
Platoon. Thank you for this service, it is truly appreciated. SFC, US
Army
16 Jan 2011: Duties: INFANTRY. Current Pads: gi
issue pads. Comments: It's hard and gives me headache all the time. PFC, US
Army
13 Jan 2011: Duties: Security, Infantry. Current
Pads: Nsn. Comments: current pads are uncomfortable and cause my ACH to
slide around even when completely strapped and tigthened. PV2, US
Army.
12 Jan 2011: Duties: Engineer operations(Heavy
Construction). Current Pads: NSN 8470-01-546-9407. Comments: uncomfortable
and they tear apart easly. SSgt, US Army.
12 Jan 2011: My Soldiers take off their helmets
in the vehicle to relieve from headache which is dangerous in moving vehicle
with limited headspace. we have received injuries just from hitting a bump
in the road and bouncing your head off the roof. The current pads bother
everyone’s’ foreheads. they also wear out fairly quickly considering we only
got here in Aug and we still need pads until next summer and several of my
Soldiers already can see the plastic inside the pad. the Army in the past
gave us one set of extra, but not this deployment. SFC, US Army.
11 Jan 2011: Duties: AAB Senior advisor to ISF
(Advisory Assistance Brigade) in Iraq (Operation New Dawn) overwatching
withdrawal of all troops by 2011. Current Pads: Gentex Corporation NSN:
8470-01-546-9415. Comments: My flight helmet utilized Oregon Aero gel pads,
as an aviator now on advisor duty, my primary helmet is the MICH w/NVG.
Current pad set is creating hotspots. MAJ, US Army.
11 Jan 2011: Duties: convoy Current Pads:
Oregon Aero - all black with sewn seams Comments: headaches with prolonged
use. Followup note: Ahh.....Yes, I was issued my bag of pads in Feb
2005 along with my MICH. The helmet and pads were probably produced in 2004
and shipped to the military. They are that old. I can't stand the current
ACH issued pads. They are hard and don't cushion very well. Especially for
hard bumps. CHARLIE MIKE! MAJ, US Army. [OpHelmet comment: pads
described we made over six years ago]
7 Jan 2011: Duties: Route Clearance. Current
Pads: MSA. Comments: It gives me a headache it's to hard for my head.
SPC, US Army.
4 Jan 2011: Duties: PRT. Current Pads: MSA.
Comments: backing of pads comes off and makes them not stick to velcro
inside of helmet...get hard in the cold weather here. SPC, US Army
1 Jan 2011: Duties: infantry, 11c. Current Pads:
basic pads, from basic training. big gray pads, that are very hard and not
comfortable. Comments: i really need more comfortable pads, due to leaving
the wire, and pulling many hours on guard, im constantly wearing my ach.
thank you so much for helping out. PFC, US Army.
31 Dec 2010: Duties: line medic. Current Pads:
green and cloth like texture and sewn seams. Comments: army issue chin strap
cause skin irritation; army issue pads are very uncomfortable wearing for
extended time periods; deploying to war zone as line medic outside wire and
need best pads possible; my parents are donating money to help defray costs;
thanks for all you are doing; wish the Army would make these standard issue.
Heard About us: my mother found online and others in my unit have ordered
and find they are great. PFC, US Army.
30 Dec 2010: Duties: Sniper. Current Pads: NSN
8470-01-546-9415. Comments: The current pads are very uncomfortable and when
they get cold they are hard as rocks. When worn everyday they wear out and
my helmet becomes loose and slides either in my eyes or towards the back of
my head. CPL, US Army.
28 Dec 2010: Duties: Medic. Current Pads: issued
ACH pads. Comments: in time the pads loose their cushionning attributes. SPC,
US Army.
28 Dec 2010: Duties: MANEUVER, CONVOY. Current
Pads: NSN & SKYDEX. Comments: I Recently received a set of the oregon aero
pads. They make a tremendous difference. Thanks to everyone who supports
this program it is a great program these pads save us from the discomfort
and pain that the military issue pads create. SPC, US Army.
26 Dec 2010: I have 36 Soldiers that go outside
the wire and could all use upgrades. We all have the same pads other than a
couple that have purchased upgraded pads already. I'm looking for an
alternative for my troops. The current pads we were issued are very hard
making the helmet uncomfortable. And in the cold months, like now, the pads
get even harder. A more comfortable fit would certainly ease the long hours
we spend wearing the ACHs. CPT, US Army
24 Dec 2010: Duties: Convoy. Current Pads: MSA
8470-01-546-9415. Comments: The pads are not fitting correctly and the
helmet moves around makes it difficult to drive. SPC, US Army.
23 Dec 2010: Duties: Explosive Ordnance Disposal.
Current Pads: NSN 8470-01-546-9415. Comments: Pads are hard and not
comfortable. CPT, US Army.
21 Dec 2010: Duties: I am the supply sgt for my
company. Current Pads: nsn 8470-01-546-9415. Comments: current pads are too
hard and bite into my joes heads. they often complain of poor fit and sore
heads. CPL. US Army.
21 Dec 2010: Duties: infantry. Current Pads: MSA.
Comments: they are very uncomfertable, we all get headaches from the issued
ones. SPC, US Army.
20 Dec 2010: Duties: Infantry. Current Pads:
Black/ Green initial issue. Comments: Pressure on the front of my
forehead.....Just plain out discomfort all around. SGT, US Army.
19 Dec 2010: We have received the helmet pads and
been wearing them for about the last month. They are a great improvement
over the issue pads. We can now conduct our operations without experiencing
headaches and head pain that we would get from the normal pads. We will try
and get through on the PEO Soldier website and let them know about the
differences in the pads. Thank you, MAJ, US Army.
17 Dec 2010: Duties: Tanker/Dismount. Current
Pads: Gray standard issue. Comments: They are very uncomfortable to wear for
prolonged periods of time. SPC, US Army.
14 Dec 2010: Duties: fueler. Current Pads: one
single pad that cover the whole helmet. Comments: my current pad is worn
out, i have had it for 3 years and am having a hard time finding an
affordable replacement. SPC, US Army.
13 Dec 2010: Duties: Route Clearance. Current
Pads: Pad, ACH NSN 8470-01-546-9407. Comments: We are conducting route
clearance operations in Afghanistan. MTBI is a serious side affect of our
profession, and anything that can increase the comfort for the Soldier, and
increase protection to the cranium is extremely important to us. 1LT,
US Army. Followup on 13 Dec 2010: "Wow. I am simply amazed at the
level of enthusiasm with which you are supporting us, and from what I have
heard, many other Soldiers and Marines as well. Only an hour ago I heard
about you from our sister Sapper company. Their Commander had nothing but
praise to say about you and your organization. Barely 30 minutes later, I
hear you have not only received the request and trying to fill it, but have
found a donor to help support us. Since we arrived in country, trying to get
even simple equipment through the government supply channels has been slow,
difficult, and often disapproved. I am simply amazed at the generosity you
and your organization have shown, to say nothing of the generosity of Mr.
Zxxx. God bless for your support of Soldiers. V/R, xxx 1LT, US Army".
9 Dec 2010: Duties: Cav Scout. Current Pads: They
are airfilled gray pads. Comments: The helmet does not fit right. Due to the
pads the helmet will not form correctly to my head. It makes it difficult to
fire my weapon while wearing it. SGT, US Army.
6 Dec 2010: Duties: can't really tell you just
know I will be outside of the wire on a daily basis. i heard a bout this
operation from my medic. Current Pads: issued with the helmet. Comments:
when its cold they are hard, and do not be come flexible until they have
been on your head for 30 min. They really do not provied any comfort for
haveing your helmet on for long periods of time including all day. SGT, US
Army.
6 Dec 2010: Heard About us: another medic Duties:
Combat medic for the troops during patrols Current Pads: gentex corportation
Comments: I'm having trouble with stabilization its hard to find the right
combination with the 7 pads i have to get it to fit right. PFC, US Army.
6 Dec 2010: Duties: infantry. Current Pads: gray
with black velcro and three different shapes one circular for the top and
four rectangular for the sides and two large squares for front and back.
Comments: well with the current pads I have it causes pressure on my temple
giving me a headache and with night vision on it weighs down the front and
causes my eyepro to dig into my face. SPC, US Army.
4 Dec 2010: Duties: Providing medical training to
ANA [Afghan National Army]. Current Pads: Standard issue green/grey
pads. Comments: As a medic, we're trained that the newest form of injury to
worry about more and more is TBI. The issue pads provided only the minimum
protection and almost zero comfort after an hour or two of consistent wear.
We can't protect our soldiers brains from forces unseen and more and more
often neurological injuries take a soldier out of the fight. PFC, US Army.
3 Dec 2010: I barely wore my helmet outside of
the wire, the second we rolled outside the gate my helmet was coming off
because it put me to sleep and hurt so bad. The only time I ever found
relief was when I was gunning, and had the mike set on. These pads were
poorly designed, and the Army needs to look into new ways of improving them.
SPC, US Army.
3 Dec 2010: Duties: Medic. Current Pads: gray
pads issued from basic training over 1 year ago. Comments: Deploying in 3
weeks, pads are worn out and doesnt offer much comfort. PFC, US Army.
2 Dec 2010: I have a scout platoon of
twenty (20) guys, all of whom want the new pads. My crew complains
constantly (of headaches)...We got a chance to look at them from the PSYOP
guys we work with on a daily basis, and as soon as they felt the difference
everyone has been bugging me to get me the info for the site. My guys will
go for 40+ hours sometimes, with their helmets on, and it's bad enough that
we've sustained a couple TBIs, worse when the helmet compounds their
headaches even more. 1LT, US Army.
2 Dec 2010: Duties: Senior Medic. Current Pads:
ACE Color, Sewn Seems, cotton like texture. Comments: Pads go flat in a
relatively short amount of time after daily wear and no longer provide as
much comfort or support. Seems tend to rip after extended daily wear.
SGT, US Army.
2 Dec 2010: Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: UNK.
Comments: Pads extremely worn. Second deployment for pads and suspension
system. SFC, US Army.
1 Dec 2010: Duties: convoy. Current Pads: NSN.
Comments: after a couple hours the pads leave a bruise on my head, making it
painful to wear headgear. PFC, US Army.
23 Nov 2010: Duties: Civil Affairs Current Pads:
light green pads Comments: over time, the pads loss there cushion. while
more comfortable then pervious pads, they still cause headaches for me.
29 Nov 2010: Duties: AO SECURITY. Current Pads:
MSA FOLIAGE GREEN. Comments: CAUSES HEADACHES FROM PRESSURE, HARDEN IN COLD.
1LT, US Army.
22 Nov 2010: Duties: Troop Executive Officer.
Current Pads: Gray, cloth covered plastic with gel inside. Comments: They
seem to be filled with air around the gel filling, causing the pads to fit
too tightly. Puncturing the outer layer helped a bit, but a pad that is more
foam in nature would produce a better and more comfortable fit. 1LT, US
Army.
20 Nov 2010: There are a few problems I have with
the current pads. My main problem is a pressure point on top of my head. I
had to remove the crown pad and reconfigure the others so it's not painful.
They also have a hard time compressing in cold weather and make the helmet
hard to fit on your head. In hot weather they retain a lot of sweat and you
end up with sweat dripping into your eyes. Lastly, they do not secure the
helmet to your head in a way that would provide the protection required. It
doesn't matter how tight or loose you have your chin strap adjusted, the
helmet never stays straight. It might stay straight for short periods of
time or while doing minimal movement, but when you're moving up a mountain,
taking contact, bounding, performing Individual Movement Techniques (IMT)
it's surely to cant to a side, making you constantly having to adjust it
just to see, or mount your weapon to your cheek. It's not a very good system
for the worlds best military. SGT, US Army.
19 Nov 2010: Duties: Rifle Platoon Leader.
Current Pads: NSN, ACU color. Comments: The current pads cause
irritation and itching once I start to sweat. They just are not comfortable.
2LT, US Army.
19 Nov 2010: Duties: Infantry Sniper. Current
Pads: MSA pads. Comments: The pads are not very comforitable, they never
compress they way you want. They irritate my forehead. They retain sweat and
smells. They also do not stable the helmet, I can't tell you how many times
I see a crooked helmet. It's embarrasing. SGT, US Army.
18 Nov 2010: Duties: I am on the PSD team
(personal security detail) constant convoys. Current Pads: color Grey army
issue pads. Comments: can not order pads through supply as well as chin
straps and the pads continue to cause headaches for all of us im a gunner
and being in the turret you are less likely to be able to remove your helmet
for a brief period. SPC, US Army.
16 Nov 2010: Duties: maintence support. Current
Pads: color light green soft texture sewn seam. Comments: current pads are
uncomfortable and hard to clean and the fabric tears when removed form ach.
SPC, US Army. [OpHelm replied that we send to troops outside the
wire and harm's way. His response]: i'm on the recovery team
i do go out side the wire everyday ive been blown up 2 times in the last
month and been shot at numerous times since ive been here if thats not good
enough for some new pads then i dnt know what is thanks [we sent pads
same day] SPC, US Army.
16 Nov 2010: Duties: Infantry. Current Pads:
black and gray, glued seam, felt texture. Comments: they wear down too fast,
are not comfortable for extended ACH usage (+24 HRS), are practically unable
to be cleaned with out ruining them so it is just as easy to keep buying the
same crappy pads. SPC, US Army.
15 Nov 2010: Duties: infantry. Current Pads: the
color is gray its very hard padding and annoying. Comments: sometimes
the padding starts to tear - really hard to break in. PV2, US Army.
14 Nov 2010: Duties: Cavalry Scout. Current
Pads: the words are worn, they are foliage green and rip very easy.
Comments: Mine and some of my guy's pads are falling apart. The backs rip
out. SGT, US Army.
13 Nov 2010: Duties: RTAC [Regional
Training Access Center]. Current Pads: basic issue green
pads. Comments: no matter how many pads i add my helmet never fits right for
more than 5 minutes. the pads are always falling off, and after about 2
hours of wearing my ACH, it begins to make my head start to pound. wearing
NVGs [night vision goggles] makes it even worse. SPC, US Army.
12 Nov 2010: Duties: Theater Strength Manager.
Current Pads: NSN 8470-01-546-9415; 01-546-9407; 01-546-9356. Comments: Hard
and uncomfortable...some pads are too large and would fit better if smaller
in size. I plan on purchasing different pads. LTC, US Army.
11 Nov 2010: Duties: PSYOP. Current Pads: MSA.
Comments: Poor fit causing problems, pads detiorating and tearing apart.
PV2, US Army.
10 Nov 2010: Duties: First Sergeant - I go where
the Soldiers go on the Battlefield, My Fighting platoon is currently the PSD
[personal security detachment] for the BDE [brigade] Commander and CSM
[Command Sergeant Major]. They are constantly moving across 159,000 square
Kilometers of battlespace. Infantry! Current Pads: Size 6 MSA pads
standard issue. Comments: I gave a set of pads to one of my Soldiers
and so far he loves the way they feel and the fact that the pads do not
stiffen up after hours on the trails and roads in Northern Afghanistan.
1SG, US Army.
10 Nov 2010: Duties: Transportation/Security
Foot/convoy Current Pads: various / standard/ green black Comments: stiff
cause headaches. SFC, US Army.
10 Nov 2010: Sorry for the delay, our internet
went down again for a few days, as per usual. Mostly, the problems we have
is that soldiers dont want to wear their helmets. So they will either unclip
them or take them off altogether, any chance they get. It gets real bad when
we are out in the sun all day. The draining sun plus the headache the
helmets give us makes for a deadly combination. We all thank you so much for
what you are doing for us guys over here. Your help is greatly appreciated.
6 Nov 2010: Duties: Infantry. Current Pads:
Team Wendy size 8 (1in Pads). Comments: My hat size is 7 1/4 which
allows me to wear either the medium ACH with 3/4 inch pads or the Large with
one inch pads. I tried the medium with 3/4 pads and it is way too tight. I
currently have a large helmet with 1" pads that fits perfectly. The problem
is the pads are falling apart. I tried to DX [order] my pads but CIF
[central issue facility] does not carry and due to the budget situation in
the Army our supply system can not order the pads. SFC, US Army.
5 Nov 2010: Duties: Cavalry. Current Pads: green,
nsn 9470016469415. Comments: stiff, uncomfortable. 1LT, US Army.
5 Nov 2010: Duties: driving in vip convoys 3 or 4
times a week. Current Pads: black round pad. Comments: current issued pads
hurt top of head after hours of driving. i drive down lots of unsafe roads
and need pads that will help protect my head. SPC, US Army.
5 Nov 2010: Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: green
and black. Comments: Thanks. MAJ, US Army.
5 Nov 2010: Duties: Infantry, over 200 combat
patrols complete in only 3 months. Current Pads: Army issue pads that
include 1 large round pad, 2 medium square pads, and 4 small square pads.
Comments: Our current pads are covered in dirt, grim, and sweat making them
gross to wear. These pads are comfortable but they don't clean well. Thanks
for your support of our troops. 1LT, US Army.
4 Nov 2010: Duties: MEDIVAC. Current Pads: Green
Hard. Comments: They are hard and feel like lumps. SGT, US Army.
4 Nov 2010: I wanted to let you know we got our
kits and LOVE THEM!!! They arrived the day before we started a 10 day
mission so they got quite a workout. Our non-scientific analysis is that we
can wear them about 30% longer before any "helmet fatigue." Even then, it
is more noticing that you have a helmet on rather than wishing you had it
off. The first day I used them in the field I went all day without
"needing" to take off my helmet because I just couldn’t take it anymore. So
it takes longer before you are uncomfortable at all and it never gets to the
"oh god get this thing off me" point. A couple of observations: Discovered
that they have a liquid interior when we had a hard freeze and my helmet was
in the truck overnight. Quickly solved by putting it over the heating vent
for a few minutes but it was a surprise. On the other hand, once heated up
they hold heat nicely! It was like putting a hot towel on my head. Nice on
a cold day. I imagine putting them on the AC would let them hold some cold
on hot days. My XO discovered that they are not nearly as comfortable if you
install them upside down! Doah! I am able to have my helmet tighter on my
head with less discomfort than with the old pads. Tighter is better. I have
knocked my head on the side of the truck a few times (occupational hazard)
and it seems like less force was transferred to my head. Also good! Thank
you again from the entire Kabul Team. We really appreciate everything you
are doing. MAJ, US Army
31 Oct 2010: Duties: I am the Team Leader
for a Validation Team in Afghanistan that assesses the training and
combat readiness of Afghan Military units. We travel throughout our
region as we assess different units every couple of weeks.
Current Pads: MSA green/black pads. Comments: The current pads
that our team has are extremely uncomfortable. They are hard and
provide no cushion. Most of team gets headaches after 20-30 minutes
of wear and want to take their helmets off. It makes extended
operations difficult when the team is battling headaches. MAJ, US
Army.
31 Oct 2010: Duties: Infantry. Brigade Commander
PSD. Current Pads: NSN: 8470-01-548-9415 GENTEX CORPORATION. Comments: Just
overall discomfort and pain. Occasional headaches, especially when out for a
long time. PFC, US Army.
26 Oct 2010: Duties: infantry. Current
Pads: NSN 8470-01-546-9415 9U425 LOT 0848-3 3/4". Comments: My
personal difficulties is that they dont hold their form, and that
they are uncomfortable. SPC, US Army.
15 Oct 2010: Duties: combat engineers,
COP building. Current Pads: skydex. Comments: worn out peeling outer
covers and sweat. SSG, US Army.
14 Oct 2010: Duties: Maneuver. Current
Pads: ACH Pads NSN: 8470-01-546-9415 Gentex Corporation. Comments:
The ACH pads dig into the side of my head on both sides causing
severe headaches. SPC, US Army.
11 Oct 2010: Duties: Route Clearance. Current
Pads: Basic pads. Comments: The pads are uncomfortable and feel like
cardboard. We wear these all day long and need more custom fit padding.
Thanks. SGT, US Army.
11 Oct 2010: Duties: Route Clearance.
Current Pads: MSA. Comments: Several soldiers have had some of their
pads come apart when removing the pads for cleaning. SPC, US
Army.
10 Oct 2010: Duties: Cavalry Scout Current Pads:
Dark Green, thin. Comments: My current pads are simply uncomfortable and
gives me headachs. SPC, US Army.
9 Oct 2010: Duties: Combat advisors and
mentors to the Afghan National Army. Current Pads: MSA. Comments:
Become stiff with sweat. Also front pad tends to make fore head numb
after 20 minutes or so. CW2, US Army.
9 Oct 2010: Duties: INFANTRY. Current Pads:
OREGON AERO. Comments: THE PADS MAKE ME SWEAT MORE THAN USUAL COMPARED TO
OTHERS THAT WEAR THE SAME HELMET. I WONDER IF THEY BE MADE SORTA LIKE
HONEYCOMB WITH AIR HOLES OR SOMETHING. SFC, US Army.
9 Oct 2010: Duties: Assessments of the ANA.
Current Pads: MSA. Comments: The current pads are very uncomfortable when
wearing the helmet for long periods. In addition you bounce around a lot in
the MRAP's. Anything that provides more cushioning is welcome. MSG, US
Army.
8 Oct 2010: Duties: light infantry/medic. Current
Pads: 5 year old original issue ach pads no writing black smell bad and
stiff as a board. Comments: i think that the current pads absorb too much
sweat mine have been through iraq and afghanistan and they smell like a dead
goat. when its cold and we sweat they freeze when we take them off so its
like wearing ice blocks on your head and the chin strap sucks too! thank you
for everything your orgization does to help grunts like me. SPC, US
Army.
8 Oct 2010: Duties: Validation Transition Team,
we travel around and validate Afghan Units on their capability to accomplish
their mission without assistance from US/NATO Forces. Current Pads: GENTEX
(gray). Comments: Headache mostly, the current pads are effective but do not
conform with all the different head shapes etc... MSG, US Army.
8 Oct 2010: Duties: I am the team chief for a
team that validates the training received by Afghan National Army Soldiers.
We ensure that the Afghan Soldiers leaving their initial training are able
to survive during their initial deployment. My team includes one Civilian,
and 4 ANA Officers. Every other week we are out with a different unit.
Current Pads: NSN. Comments: Most of us cant stand having our helmets on for
more than a few hours before our scalps get sore. Taking off your helmet can
be unhealthy but I admit we do it a lot. I would love to be safe and
comfortable! MAJ, US Army.
6 Oct 2010: Duties: Security. Current Pads: nsn
8479016469358. Comments: doesnt allow helmet to sit properly on your head.
SSG, US Army.
4 Oct 2010: Duties: CONVOY. Current Pads: NSN
3470-01-506-6626. Comments: HEADACHES, CHIN STRAP IS UNCORFORTABLE WHEN WORN
FOR HOURS. PFC, US Army.
1 Oct 2010: Duties: I am the [opsec] and
have to always be ready to put on my body armor. I work missions
that require my helmet and the old pads that are issued make my head
feel like its in a vice. PLEASE HELP. Current Pads: hard black
pads that were issued in kuwait. Comments: I am going to write to
help the cause, change out the pads. 1LT, US Army.
1 Oct 2010: Duties: Route Clearence Current Pads:
MSA Comments: Cause discomfort and headaches with the soldiers of the
Platoon. PFC, US Army.
30 Sep 2010: Duties: Route Clearance. Current
Pads: NSN: 8470-01-546-9415. Comments: The current pads we have are hard and
uncomfortable. When trying to pull them out to clean, they often rip/tear.
SSG, US Army.
29 Sep 2010: Convoy Security. Comments: I
just want to start by saying that the pads you sent me are great. The
previous pads that I had were original issuse when I came in the army. Let
me just say they were not comfortable. When we wear our helmets as much as
we do these new pads are great cause its important to have a comfortable
helmet. Thanks and you are doing a great thing. SGT, US Army.
28 Sep 2010: Duties: I am a Secfor Medic. Current
Pads: MSA. Comments: While out just doing training i find myself constintly
adjusting my ACH because of the pressure headaches it gives me. SPC, US
Army.
27 Sep 2010: Duties: Route Clearance. Current
Pads: MSA. Comments: N/A. SPC, US Army.
26 Sep 2010: Duties: Full Spectrum. Current Pads:
Skydex. Comments: Current Pads are very hard in extreme cold and in extreme
heat become deformed after extended wear as in current operations SSG,
US Army.
25 Sept 2010: Doc...thanks for the
quick response and thank you for sending the helmet pads. We have
the same problems as everyone else...the pads get painful and it
distracts us from what we're doing. I personally find myself
fidgeting with my helmet after about 30 minutes and then taking it
off and rubbing my head every 10-15 minutes after that. My team
rotates as top gunners and I always dread being up there because I'm
distracted. Asking around, that pretty well sums it up for my guys
also.
MAJ, US Army
24 Sep 2010: Duties: I have a six man team that
is responsible for assessing the effectivness of Afghan Army units on combat
operations. We will frequently travel throughout [the area]. Current Pads:
Standard issue MSA. Comments: These pads are terribly uncomfortable after
about an hour because they are so hard. MAJ, US Army.
14 Sep 2010: Duties: MP [military
police]. Current Pads: Grey Pads. Comments: Forehead pains &
headaches. PFC, US Army.
11 Sep 2010: Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: MSA
Pad. Comments: When I was over the first time they were very uncomfortable,
many complaints among the soldiers. SPC, US Army.
10 Sep 2010: Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: Gray
on gray.. It seems like they where glued together. Comments: They are
falling apart. Every time I take them out to wash them they get a new tear
in the pads. I've had them for only 2 weeks after replacing them at CIF.
SGT, US Army.
7 Sep 2010: Duties: [our unit] will replace the [opsec],
conducting counter-insurgency operations alongside Afghan National Security
Forces. Current Pads: ZAP MGF by Team Wendy. Comments: I just got back from
Iraq I was stationed in camp Taji we did Convoy Security, we wore our ACH's
throughout the mission hours at a time. The pads that was given to me are
rock hard they are not form fitting. They are cheaply made the edges that
was sewn are really course and would really irritate my forehead. After
getting head aches I would remove some pads and then my ACH would slip down
on the bridge of my nose and cut it. I am about to deploy to Afgan in April
and would love to not have these problems in a much more hostile
environment. SPC, US Army.
5 Sep 2010: Duties: Traditional CAV scout
mission mixed with current COIN ops. Current Pads: they are the CIF
issued pads, green greyish color. Comments: Constant headache approx
30-45 min after i wear my helmet. also the pads get worn down pretty
quickly and do not return to form. 1LT, US Army
5 Sep 2010: Duties: combat engineer. Current
Pads: NSN 8470-01-506-6626. Comments: pads come apart easily when worn for
long time. SGT, US Army.
4 Sep 2010: Duties: PLATOON LDR- TRUCK
COMPANY. Current Pads: NSN, Green, I get Headaches a lot from
wearing all day. Comments: We are truck drivers and they are not
comfortable at all many Soldiers complain of Head Aches and lack of
support. 1LT, US Army.
30 Aug 2010: Duties: Intel Sergeant. Current
Pads: MSA Black. Comments: sweat at lot. SGT, US Army.
30 Aug 2010: Duties: Recon. Current Pads: NSN.
Comments: The pads are very stiff and after a full day at the range wearing
the ACH with the NSN pads I get headaches . Very uncomfertable to wear and
move around in, also pulls my hair on sudden movements. PV2, US Army.
29 Aug 2010: Duties: Cavalry Scout. Current Pads:
NSN 8470-01-546-9407. Comments: I've been using to same pads and chin strap
i was issued in basic training because i was never issued any when i arrived
to my unit. I also heard from my friend from basic how good these pad are so
why not find out. PFC, US Army.
28 Aug 2010: Duties: Recon. Current Pads: MSA.
Comments: Uncomfortable to wear for long periods of time. SPC, US
Army.
28 Aug 2010: Duties: forward reconnaissance.
Current Pads: MSA. Comments: After being in the field or on deployments with
the MSA pads, the kevlar bounces around on my head and isn't very secure,
especially during night time ops with the extra weight of nods [night vision
device]. PFC, US Army
27 Aug 2010: Duties: engineer. Current Pads: nsn
green. Comments: padding wears out too fast. PFC, US Army.
26 Aug 2010: Duties: Infantry Medic. Current
Pads: basic pad set that comes with the ACH they are the army acu color.
Comments: i get a pressure headache on my front of the head and it hurts my
head within a half hour of having it on. i have seen really nice front pads
u can get. SPC, US Army.
26 Aug 2010: Duties: Combat Engineer, Route
clearance, patrols. Current Pads: NSN: 8470-01-546-9415. Comments: The pads
are stiff and will not clean easily. SGT, US Army.
23 Aug 2010: Duties: INFANTRY. Current Pads: all
ACU colored for the ACH. Comments: It's just so uncomfortable. SSG, US
Army.
21 Aug 2010: Duties: Engineer. Current Pads: MSA.
Comments: The helmet pads that we have right now are to stiff and cause
headaches. SSG, US Army.
20 Aug 2010: Duties: Medic. Current Pads:
8470-01-506-6851. Comments: the current pads become hard/stiff and brittle
after just a few months in theater. they are not very durable as well.
SSG, US Army.
17 Aug 2010: Duties: Convoy security. Current
Pads: . Comments: The pads are seperating from the backing, and no
longer sticking to the helmet. I am asking enough for my entire platoon.
1LT, US Army.
9 Aug 2010: Army Scout working with
Civil Affairs units in Afghanistan. Current Pads: MSA.
Comments: Our greatest concern is that the ACH's tend to fall in
front of our eyes when we are in the prone. In addition if you have
head lamps they would be greatly appricated. SPC, US Army.
6 Aug 2010: Duties: Route Clearance.
Current Pads: NSN - foliage green. Comments: Hard. Now that they've
broke in it's rubbing the hair off the front of my head. Also doesn't stay
in place and I've been hit in the head a few times with the metal NVG mount.
SGT, US Army.
2 Aug 2010: Duties: Convoy security. Current
Pads: Skydex. Comments: The pads are uncomfortable for any extended periods
(which is all the time) causing headaches and fatigue. The kit also came
with a chin strap that cuts into the face (rubs it raw). SPC, US Army.
1 Aug 2010: Duties: mechanic. Current Pads: not
exactly sure. its for my husband that is deployed. he lthat is left one here
that is green on one side and black on the other. fuzzy material and a tag
with either a 6 or 9 on it. hope that helps. Comments: he is always
complaining the they are uncomfortable and hot. SSG, US Army.
1 Aug 2010: Duties: Infantry. Current Pads: My
helmet [is not available right now], they are very uncomfortable though.
Comments: They are uncomfortable, they rub my head raw, they make my helmet
slide forward, they are just horrible pads. My battle buddy and i have head
aches from wearing them all day today on a qrf mission. PV2, US Army
27 Jul 2010: Duties: Fire Support/Joint
Fires Observer. Current Pads: standard issue gray ones.
Comments: the gray ones are not forming right and giving some of us
headaches, and some of us have our hair getting pulled in weird
ways. kind of lumpy to which after a while sucks. SPC, US Army
27 Jul 2010: Duties: Infantry. Current
Pads: army standard issue from army CIF [central issue facility]. Comments: They lose
their shape quickly, aren't comfortable or fitting on the head and
they cause headaches. 1LT, US Army.
25 Jul 2010: Duties: MP. Current Pads:
MSA Pad, Circ Crown 3/4". Comments: The current pads cause very sore
hot spots on certain areas of my head. MSG, US Army
24 Jul 2010: Duties: 11b - Infantry. Current
Pads: CIF issued. Comments: the pads that are issued via CIF are not only
uncomfortable but too bulky, and are not very durable. PFC, US Army.
24 Jul 2010: Duties: MOUNTED/DISMOUNTED PATROLS.
Current Pads: MSA 8470-01-546-9415. Comments: THEY ARE WORE OUT AND THEY ARE
HARD AND FEEL LIKE WEARING A BRICK AGAINST YOUR HEAD. SSG, US Army
24 Jul 2010: I am active duty and was issued the
pads with the helmet at Fort Carson. The pads were in the helmet so it may
have been that a soldier purchased them to clear easier (new vs. old).
However many of my Soldiers from Fort Hood came with Skydex pads. Thank you.
SFC, US Army
23 Jul 2010: Duties: Infantry, Scout, Recon.
Current Pads: MSA, Green and black, Sewn seam. Comments: I have to move the
pads around to make room for my radio headset, when I am on mounted patrol.
However the pads have torn from unvelcroing over time. It seems the velcro
is stronger than the sewing on the seams. Also, the padding compresses over
time and does not allow much cushion. SSG, US Army.
23 Jul 2010: Duties: logistics. Current
Pads: MSA 8470-01-546-9415. Comments: the pads fall apart, they get
hard spots in them and create sore spots on the forehead! SSG, US Army
22 Jul 2010: Military Police. i
have a small head and wear a small helmet but the pads do not seat
my head properly in the helmet. SPC, US Army.
21 Jul 2010: Ammunition Specialist. Comments:
Current pads are poorly made and split at the seams. SPC, US Army.
18 Jul 2010: Cavalry - refueling. Comments: you
have to remove 1-3 to get them to fit right. some of us have misshapen
heads! lol SGT, US Army.
18 Jul 2010: Sniper Comments: I am requesting 3
kits. One for me, and the other two are for the two other people on the
sniper team with me. Since we've been in country we've all had problems with
our issue helmet pads. They don't seem to hold up with the extreme
temperatures. The issue pads dry out and feel like bricks when you first put
the helmet on for the day. Then, after we get to our overwatch points, the
pads start soaking up all that sweat. Then, when we get back,m we have
noticed that the pads start to fall apart. In conclusion, the issue pads are
complete garbage. My team and I would very much appreciate the upgrade. Just
something that little would brighten these three infantry soldier's days.
Thank you... SPC, US Army.
18 Jul 2010: Infantry Comments: The issue pads
are too stiff and uncomfortable. They give you a headache. Friends who have
these pads can't stop raving about how comfortable they are! SGT, US
Army.
17 Jul 2010: Infantry. Comments: Current pads are
either too thick (causing me to use fewer of them; making the whole system
not as stable) or sit right at my temples causing me to have headaches
within the first hour of wearing the helmet. SPC, US Army.
17 Jul 2010: SNIPER. Comments: THEY LOSE THIER
PADDING AND BECOME STIFF AND HARD. SSG, US Army.
16 Jul 2010: Convoy, Patrol, Air Support.
Comments: The pads that I recieved from the origional issue began to swell
and I had to start removing and rearanging the pads so that my helmet would
still fit me. They all created hot spots on my head and created a very
uncomfortable and itchy feeling. The second set of pads that I was issued
shortly after we deployed did not last long. This set of pads wore very thin
and started to harden making the wear of the helmet very uncomfortable. The
rest of the unit is experiencing similar issues. SSG, US Army.
16 Jul 2010: Route Clearance. Comments: My helmet
never sits right and needs to be adjusted all the time. My whole SQD has the
same problem with theres too. If you can please help us out we work anywhere
from 8-14 hours a night. Thank you and God Bless. SGT, US Army.
15 Jul 2010: Military Police. Comments: Forehead
pain. SFC, US Army
12 Jul 2010: convoy security, patrols. Comments:
I have requested 20 units for my squad, but Am wondering if I could try to
receive enough for all deploying soldiers in my company, 141 is the number
we have for troops on the ground, but any amount that can be freed up is
more then helpful, I have requested these units through my chain of command
and luck....I would love to do what I can to allow my soldiers to do their
job out there instead of dealing with headaches, and pains. SGT, US
Army.
12 Jul 2010: Convoys, Guard Duty, Mechanic,
Escort Missions. Comments: I have been deployed 4 times and I am about to
make my fifth trip. I have yet came across any padding or liners that fit
comfortably, support or vents. Currently I have a gentex TPL Flight liner,
and I have an ACH. I have tried the originally issued pads, the skydex
system, I have tried using less pads, more small pads than large pads. The
original pads hold heat, they harden in the winter making it extremely
uncomfortable. All I can say is please help. Sgt, US Army.
11 Jul 2010: Hello first off I like to
say thank you for your support, head protection is vital in over
seas operations. My pads are manufactured by MSA, they are standard
issue. These pads are stiff and uncomfortable. These pads often
build up pressure against the soldiers head which causes discomfort
and headaches. This leads to a lot of soldiers to take their ACHs
off which is dangerous. PFC, US Army.
10 Jul 2010: Duties: Conducting EOD support
and Partnership Operations with the Iraqis Comments: Thank you very much for
your patriotism in service to the fine men and women of the United States
Military! SSG, US Army.
9 Jul 2010: Duties: convoy security. Comments:
unit will not purchase them for us, and Ive ask my soldiers about it and
they can not afford them, I am unable to purchase for everyone in my
section, but have heard they work great. SGT, US Army.
7 Jul 2010: Duties: INFANTRY. Comments: I am
requesting 35 kits for my Scout platoon. Your services are much appreciated.
CPT, US Army.
6 Jul 2010: Duties: infantry in afghanistan
Comments: i dont know the brand but the new pads that are fielded leave sore
spots especially with buzz cut hair and sweat makes it worse i believe i had
the oregons in iraq and i notice an incredible difference between those and
the new pad being issued. SPC, US Army
6 Jul 2010: Duties: Infantry Platoon Leader
Comments: current pads uncomfortable, best liner I have worn was a friends
and its a one piece that fits over the entire top portion of the head. I am
requesting enough for my platoon, but I will gladly take whatever you are
willing to supply. thank you. 1LT, US Army.
23 June 2010: I just received 20 helmet
pad kits for my Soldiers and distributed them before what turned
into a 15 hour route clearance mission. There is absolutely no
comparison between the issued pads and your pads. 15 hours in the
issued pads would have created hotspots and blinding headaches. I
could not blame my Soldiers for removing their helmets, but
unfortunately, I cannot allow them to remove them. No such problems
with these new pads. To a man, everyone praised these wonderful
pads. Thank you for sending to me. I am currently on the PEO website
and I cannot find a survey or feedback page for the pads. There is a
link for it, but it leads to an empty page.
6 Jun 2010: ENGINEER, ROAD CONSTRUCTION. MY UNIT SUPPLY DOESN'T
HAVE ACCESS TO EXTRA PADS AND MY OLD PADS ARE PRETTY BEAT UP AND TORN AND THEY
ARE VERY UNCOMFORTABLE AND GIVES ME A HEADACHE. SPC, US Army.
6 Jun 2010: Vehicle Commander. Lack of Unit Supply.. old Mitch
(helmet) pads Smoked and Ripped. very uncomfortable.. SPC, US Army.
4 Jun 2010: Cavalry Scout. The old helmet pads wear out and tear up
very easily. They also become very hard after a couple weeks of use. SPC,
US Army.
4 Jun 2010: Forward Observer - Standard issue pads just don't cut it. Had to
reduce the number of pads in the helmet to alleviate the problem, and the
front-most pad has been crushed to the point where it barely cushions at all.
Additionally, in the event that I suffer a head wound, my family won't receive
SGLI benefits due to the lower number of pads in my helmet, and because they
aren't covering the screws from my chinstrap. PFC, US Army.
27 May 2010: Force protection and mil to mil with host nations in Africa
Comments: Hi Doc Bob. This is xxx again. The new pads are working great and are
sooooo much more comfortable. The battalion will be in country shortly and you
asked me to write back and let you know how many pad kits we could use. Thank
you and your donors. Sgt, US Army. [requested 250 kits]
26 May 2010: Infantry. Skydex pads loose
their elasticity and are rock solid in cold weather. SFC, US Army
23 May 2010: combat medic Comments: old pads are
hard to get a good fit, dig into head causing headaches during periods of
extended use. PFC, US Army.
19 May 2010: Military Police. I am requesting 5
sets of pads for myself and the other guys in my team. Other teams have recieved
the pads and they are above and beyond what are issued. Thank you so much for
the support!!!!!
19 May 2010: Combat Medics. I thank you in
advance. We are heading over soon (sorry, cant be specific) and can not get
anything issued. We are out there saving lives and humping right along with the
rest of the troops. My unit will be safer due to this assistance. Sgt, US
Army.
2 May 2010: Infantry First Sergeant. Pads
used with internal helmet headsets for the radio cause extreme pain and
discomfort. 1SG, US Army.
2 May 2010: Infantry. The current issued
pads are unsatisfactory. They in no way fit to your head. Slipage is constantly
a problem, which affects how we see and communicate on the battlefield.
SSGT, US Army
1 May 2010: my issued pads are way to stiff and
thick, we have to use gentex chin straps as part of the SOP here and it rubs
against my ears and is uncomfortable, potentially dangerous. i need softer
thinner pads that are still authorized. thanks u guys are doing a good service.
SPC, US Army.
1 May 2010: I NEED NEW PADS BECAUSE THE ONE I
HAVE NOW ARE WORE OUT AND HURTING MY HEAD AND GIVING ME HEADACHES. SSGT,
US Army.
23 Apr 2010: I have the Kydex bricks for pads,
and due to funds, our supply is unable to order new ones, citing that they are
currently on the restricted buy list. Not to mention that they are like
strapping pieces of cardboard together and calling it "good" Please send a set
of good pads so I don't have to deal with the constant headaches and numbness
that I deal with everyday. SGT, US Army.
31 March 2010: Sir: as we are getting
ready to conduct route clearance (go out and find IEDs) we are preparing our
Soldiers for the inevitable blasts that we will encounter. The problem with the
current pads is that they are grossly uncomfortable so Soldiers: 1) Constantly
remove their helmets to get relief for their heads. Thus exposing their heads;
this may happen right before a blast which would cause catastrophic damage as
they are thrown around a vehicle. 2) Soldiers buy commercial off the shelf items
that do not meet basic force protection requirements. These products are very
comfortable. However, the expose the night vision device mount so it can strike
the head if shaken. They expose screws and the inner surface of the ACH which
could potentially strike the head. In conclusion, the current Army provided pads
push Soldiers to remove their ACH's constantly and/or modify their ACH's to a
unauthorized configuration Thank-you so much for your incredible support CPT,
EN
23 Mar 2010: Doc Bob,Thank you for such
a quick response. Our EOD techs support a variety of missions. The two main
missions are Route Clearance Operations (RCPs) and fly-away missions (hopping on
an aircraft and being flown to whatever location to respond to an IED).
During RCPs, they travel from point A to point B
checking the routes for IEDs, and oftentimes, these RCPs will take 8+ hours a
day. The Soldiers wear their ACHs for the duration of the ride and will often
come back with bruising on various points of their heads. I have personally seen
the bruises as well as places where skin was rubbed raw on the forehead which is
just unacceptable. Some will loosen the straps on the ACH, but this decreases
the performance of the ACH in the event of an emergency, such as a rollover. The
ACH then becomes more of a risk than a help. Sometimes the Soldiers get
headaches if they do keep the straps tight, which hinders their ability to focus
on extremely important tasks or decisions regarding deadly IEDs. Since we have
been here, the weather has remained cool thus far, but it is starting to heat up
which will reduce the durability of the pads once heads start to sweat. With the
moisture and day to day wear, the pads start to compress and are in need of
being replaced.
During fly-away missions, our techs go out with
infantry Soldiers and can walk long distances and be more susceptible to small
arms fire and indirect fire. Walking in the heat with packs full of necessary
EOD equipment can take a toll on the body and having an ACH that cause great
discomfort does not help. Again, Soldiers loosen the straps, and if they were to
receive small arms fire or indirect fire, the ACH would be a potential risk as
Soldiers are more likely to use jerkier movements when under stress and are
required to react immediately. We're looking to try anything new that might help
the Soldiers even a little bit.
15 Mar 2010 - Infantry, Dismounted Operations.
Comments: After many weeks of hard work and sweat (plus no showers) building our
JSS, my men's pads are hard as rocks and falling apart from dirt and moisture
buildup. Unfortunately it is just our platoon out here and our cries for even
sub-standard GI pads are unheard. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated! If you
have any info on chinstraps as well that would be gravy! Thank you in advance!!!
SSG, US Army.
12 Mar 2010 - Duties: Dismounted operations -
Cavalry Scout Team Leader. Comments: The issue pads are hard, uncomfortable, and
seem flimsy. I tried some pads from my friend's ACH who has oregon aero and they
seemed way better. [friend] and I wanted to use these instead. SGT, US Army.
11 Mar 2010 - Route Clearance patrols; I am
platoon leader for an Engineer Route Clearance Platoon. My men are on the road
six days a week for eight plus hours a day. I went to buy a new set of pads for
my helmet and saw a $95 price tag on them. Way too expensive for a set of pads
that do not take sweat well and give you a headache no matter how they are
inserted into the helmet. My men have complained to me many times about the pads
issued to them from CIF. We greatly appreciate your support. LT, US Army.
7 Mar 2010 - Heard About us: Medics/Platoon
Sergeant; The standard issue pads I am using with my ACH cause headaches
after a short amount of time wearing the helmet. My Platoon Sergeant has the
green and black pads and said they have helped out tremendously. My current pads
are NSN: 8470-01-476-5643. LT, US Army [OH note: this are govt
issued pads that, statistically, are made by Team Wendy]
5 Mar 2010 - I ordered a set for myself in the
past. Duties: Engineers. Comments: Hello, my Platoon is in the
process of mobilizing and we will be leaving in early April and I was wondering
if you would b able to get them [46 kits] to us before we leave? SFC, US
Army.
3 Mar 2010: Thanks again for sending the
kits out so quickly, my Soldiers will greatly appreciate it. To answer your
question I asked around to my guys and they said when they washed the current
ones (just by hand in a sink) the texture and the durability goes down
considerably. They become harder and lose elasticity and therefore are much
less comfortable, especially for wearing for extended periods of time day in and
day out.
2 Mar 2010 - I will be doing retrans in Afghanistan and going to fix Commo
equipment in the vehicles. I would really like some comfort in my ACH, the
pads Ihave now hurt my head and cause me head aches!!! PFC, US Army
28 Feb 2010: We have been wearing the Oregon Aero
helmet pad set your organization provided us for two weeks... WE ARE UNANIMOUS -
these pads are by far better, no the best we have ever tryed. I had two Soldiers
take a good bump on the head during a breeching operation and we have an average
of 10 hours a day in our helmets and we are in love with the pads!!! we would
highly suggest your products to everyone we meet. I have passed on to some
fellow leaders on this FOB your contact info/website. Thank you Sir for all you
are doing for us Dr. we appreciate it and i think--no i know we are now safer
for your efforts.
27 Feb 2010: ...they feel like you are super
gluing large rocks to the inside of your head and they are just too thick which
makes the helmet fit too tight on your head giving you a headache within 5 min.
i would rather not even wear one than have to put up with that.seems like once
they get saturated with sweat and dirt and dry they turn even harder too. all in
all, if you couldnt tell already, i dont like them too much.
23 Feb 2010: I was hoping to get 2 kits. 1 for me
and 1 for my gunner. Thanks for everything you guys do. The issue pads we have
are hard as rocks and generally suck all over. My SSG told me about this bc he
used your site to get good pads. SGT, US Army.
23 Feb 2010: Engineer Route Clearance
Platoon, Requesting Pads for my entire Platoon. We clear on average 200 km 5-6
times a week. If you cannot send 31 kits, please send as many as you can,
my Soldiers would really appreciate it. LT, US Army.
20 Feb 2010: I have had the green and black pad
set (Oregon AERO kit #95080 phone # 1-800-888-6910) I loved them they were
comfortable and nice to wear, now I have been issued a solid gray set (NSN
8470-01-546-9356) that are hard as rocks and are terrible to wear, I would also
like to have a pad that is about 6 inches in length that goes in the front along
your forehead, so that the sweat wont run down your face. SSG, US Army.
11 Feb 2010: The pads I have in my ACH are hard
and cause headaches. I have brought this up with my supply section, and was told
to get my own if I dont like the ones they have, because that's all that is
available. Since then I have tried to cut them down, but that just made it fit
worse. I am deploying in March and would appreciate it if you sent me a kit.
SGT, US Army.
9 Feb 2010:
: I HAVE HAD THE SAME PADS SINCE 2007 RIGHT
BEFORE MY FIRST DEPLOYMENT AND OF ALL THE UNCOMFORTABLE THINGS I HAVE LEARNED TO
DEAL WITH MY HELMET PADS ARE BY FAR THE WORST.
8 Feb 2010: Thank You so much for sending
my fire team helmet pads. I am no longer getting the question about, "can we
take off our k-pots my head hurts." My Fireteam and I would like to thank all
the people that made this possible.
1 Feb 2010: Thank you, I appreciate it so much, was recently out on a patrol and
had to wear my ACH with the standard issue pads and i constantly would get a
pounding sensation at the top of my forward, causing me to want to move the ACH
to the right or left. Doing so kept me from being able to scan my sector, which
was definantly not safe considering the use of NVG's.
31 Jan 2010: When we deploy, we will be "out and
about", meeting with and interacting with the local civilian population, to gain intell, but mainly to coordinate with NGOs and the U.S. Army what needs to be
done within the local communities to help the people, and to improve their
standard of living. Examples are; to either fix or build schools for the local
children (particularly girls), sanitation etc, and as a "Special Operations"
designated C.A. Bn, we also will train local police and military, and set up
local elections, typical Civil Affairs missions, in Afghanistan. I thank you for all you do. Altho I/we are not
currently deployed, we will be deploying soon, and these pads in the ACH suck. A
friend told me about your organization, and since we will have to buy our own
Body Armor, not having to buy these pads will be a great savings to me/us. I am
requesting sets for myself, as well as my Civil Affairs Team (CAT-4). Command
still does not look favorably on this, as they think the issued kind are "fine",
but since they probably all have the good pads in their helmets already, sitting
in the A/C & heated TOC, back in the FOB/COB they don't have to wear the things
all day, every day, and have the headaches etc. I know the Army is trying-they
have made huge improvements in equipment just since the 90's, but why pay
$500.00 for a hammer, when they wont invest in good pads, and Body armor for
"us" I will never understand. Thank you all for what you are doing:)
SFC, US Army.
31 Jan 2010: Would very much appreciate the free
helmet pads for my team. We are conducting frequent and tiring operations every
day and I have more than once heard my soldiers complain of chronic pain and
irritability due to current helmet pads. Thank you! SGT, US Army.
28 Jan 2010: I'm on my second deployment
with the same pads, my pads gone they are just pieces of cloth and velcro with
the broken supply system we have I can't get replacement pads. SGT, US
Army.
13 Jan 2010: Thank you so much for the helmet pads.
They are 200% nicer than the ones originally issued to us. Everyone in my
platoon is very, very thankful. The pads, are a lot softer and have a more
ability to shape to the wearers head. I wore them on our last mission and for
once I didn't get a headache. I can not thank you enough for this gift of
comfort.
10 Jan 2010: Thanks once
again, This donation was nothing short of amazing. Every soldier in our platoon
that conducts missions received a set. Everyone was extremely thankful and some
even asked how did I know that they needed them. The comfort level was instantly
noticed, for some of our missions call for helmet usage twenty two hours plus.
When I informed my fellow soldiers about the no drip factor they
were intrigued that it wasn't already taken into consideration and impressed in
the new set.
9 Jan 2010: I apologize for the late reply. I have
been out of office for quite some time distributing supplies to my soldiers
across the area and that includes the helmet pads. After some time for use, the
soldiers Loved them. We had just enough to give out to everyone. We would
all like to thank you all for bits of heaven to put into our helmets.
3 Jan 2010: I currently have
some sort of grey pad, not vary specific I know but there is no name on them.
The current pads are very hard and most of them have no backing and do not
actually stick to the Velcro in the helmet. Therefore on mission I am forced
to, in the turret of my RG, take off my helmet to fix the pads that have moved
around. I really wish the pads were softer and were a lot more durable.
Thanks, you guys are doing a great thing. (Army Sapper-route clearance,
Afghanistan)
2 Jan 2010: We no longer dread about wearing our
helmets during long missions. They are now very comfortable and our helmets
don't fall in front of our eyes while shooting. Thank you for the support we
really appreciate it.
29 Dec 2009: We came to Iraq with the old pads, most
soldiers complained of headaches and other problems from our issued pads. They
were hard, uncomfortable, and fell apart fast after being cleaned a couple
times. I contacted operation helmet and received enough oregon aero pads for
everyone in the platoon. The difference was instant, people were amazed at the
noticable differnce in comfort. Comfort means a lot when your on the road for
up to 12 hours at a time. Even people who looked at both pads were (not)
convinced they would feel a difference, but they were surprized and happy once
they switched over to the oregon aero pads. Thank you so much for your support
and the gift of our new pads, it means a lot to us and made a difference in our
everyday lives here in Iraq.
27 Dec 2009: Aviation Maintenance and Downed Aircraft
Recovery Operations Sorry it took so long to do this survey. The New pads are
great, and all my soldiers agree. Much better than the pads that are issued to
us with the ACH. Much more comfortable fit than the hard pads we had before.
Thank you so much for your support.
16 Dec 2009 - we are
airborne infantry, conducting various combat patrols in our AO. the pads are stiff,
and do not cushion very well. SPC, US Army.
2 Dec 09 - Hello!
I am requesting pads and hopefully a 4 point chin or strap system, I am not really
having problems with my pads because I do not have any...I we were not really properly
equipped due to lack of funds...Upon our return home from Iraq on our first deployment
we were supposed to be properly supplied but due to some Bureaucratic Red Tape we
never really received the proper gear, we actually went through half of our original
deployment without ballistic plates or uparmored Humvees. I thank you in advance
for your assistance with this matter. SPC, US Army
26 Nov 2009 - Need
new pads with more support then the issued ones. [found out from my] Brother who
is in the Marines and told me about this operation when I told him about our helmets
and how the pads suck. the comfort on our issued ones are horrible and after
a month or two they are rock hard. SPC, Army
2 Nov 2009 - Month three and pad velcro
came off. Thanks for your support. SPC, Army
28 Oct 2009 - Combat
Engineer, I am deploying in the next 3 months, I need a kit because my kit is all
beat up. plus the issue kits gave me a rash on my head. SPC, US Army
27 Oct 2009- PERSONALLY
MY ISSUED PADS GIVE ME HEADACHES, AND I KNOW THIS SOUNDS CRAZY BUT IT MAKES MY HEAD
GO NUMB AT THE POINTS OF CONTACT. THEY ARE SO HARD AND NONFORMING I HAVE TO TAKE
MY ACH OFF ALL THE TIME. I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING THAT I CAN THINK OF, AND I AM ALWAYS
REARANGING THE WAY THE PADS SIT INSIDE THE HELMET, BUT NOTHING SEEMS TO WORK. I
WOULD BE VERY GREATFUL IF YOU GUYS COULD HELP OUT.
24 Oct 2009 - route clearence/eod - my
unit is already deployed - our pads suck hells bells. SPC, Army
24 Oct 2009 - The pads issued are uncomfortable if helmet is worn for long
periods of time. The pads seem to have pressure spots on them that push into
the side of my head. SFC, Army.
24 Oct 2009 - WILL BE ON PATROL / ESCORTING DIFFERENT PEOPLE AROUND IRAQ ON A
REGULAR BASIS AND THE KITS GET WORN DOWN AND WE REALLY DON'T GET A CHANCE
TO CHANGE THEM OUT OR GET NEW ONES BECAUSE OF THE AREA WE ARE [IN] AT THIS TIME.
1SG, Army
22 Oct 2009 - I am having current problems with my pads. they are falling apart
very badly and my 1 soldier's pads are to. thank you for all the support .
SSG, US Army
18 Oct 2009 - WE ARE A SMALL SECTION OF INFANTRYMEN WHO GO OUTSIDE THE WIRE ALMOST
EVERYDAY. DUE TO BEING A PERSONAL SECURTY DETACHMENT FOR AN O-6, WE ALWAYS HAVE
TO STAY IN OUR FULL KIT WHILE OUT ON MISSION. I FOUND THIS WEBSITE LOOKING FOR A
PLACE TO BUY A NEW SOFTER SET OF ACH HELMET PADS. PERSONALLY MY ISSUED PADS
GIVE ME HEADACHES, AND I KNOW THIS SOUNDS CRAZY BUT IT MAKES MY HEAD GO NUMB AT
THE POINTS OF CONTACT. THEY ARE SO HARD AND NONFORMING I HAVE TO TAKE MY ACH OFF
ALL THE TIME. I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING THAT I CAN THINK OF, AND I AM ALWAYS REARANGING
THE WAY THE PADS SIT INSIDE THE HELMET, BUT NOTHING SEEMS TO WORK. I WOULD BE VERY
GREATFUL IF YOU GUYS COULD HELPOUT. SPC, US Army
12 Oct 2009: My head starts hurting soon after I put it on. I was fited at
Camp Atterbury. The pads feel like their to thick. Its better than the old
kevlars. But not as big an improvement as I thought it would be. I'v heard your
kits make a big differance.
11 Oct 2009: Can't thank your organization enough, the soldiers in my squad
noticed a major difference in comfort. Where before all they could think about
during AARs was when or if they could remove their ACHs, I had to remind them to
unhelmet from time to time. No headaches during long high tempo training either.
With long missions just over the horizon I can already measure the benefits of
the OA pads.
26 Sep 09:
Gunner, infantry: Getting bad headaches. The pads are
very hard and don't conform to my head. Manufacturer: MSA
18 Sep 2009 - Personally, have had raw patches on my forehead
from all day wear on my last rotation. Have had my soldiers complain of headaches
and I know exactly what they mean. WO1, Army
16 Sep 2009 - The
pads I have make certain spots on my head numb, and I get headaches, because they
are absolutely too firm, expecially when I'm using my NODS. My unit is scheduled
to leave for Afghanistan mid-November to early-December. Was searching for
a more comfortable pad system/alternative liner for my ACH on google, and came across
this site. PFC, Army
18 Aug 2009 - Mostly the main problem is comfort. After
wearing our helmets for longer than an hour the pads feel like they're digging into
our skulls. I have completed one tour prior and have had problems with my pads rubbing
my forehead raw. There are also problems with the helmets moving around too much
over our heads. If you can save some of my guys and my self the hassles that I went
through on my last tour, I would be greatly appreciative. SPC, Army
18 Aug 2009 - Current pads are made by MSA. The main problem
we are seeing is that the padding wears out or looses its shock absorbing/weight
bearing properties quickly. As EOD techs, we need to be more concerned with addressing
the IED threat outside the wire, not how our helmet padding is bothering us or affecting
the fit of our helmet. 1LT, Army
15 Aug 2009 -Our Troop conducts recon patrols and long
and short term OPs. We will be deploying late fall (not sure if I can spread exact
date yet or not) and are headed for Iraq. Not all of us have problems with our pads,
just most of our dismounts. PFC, Army
11 Aug 2009 - They just hurt. I've moved them all over
the place to try to make them comfortable and my head aches after every mission.
30 Jul 2009 - I have several sailors and soldiers that
comp of chronic headaches and pain. 1LT, Army
24 Jul 2009 - i'm in artillery and my ach still has the
same kit i got in basic training its worn and falls out all the time and leaves
my skin irritated and itchy. PFC, Army
10 Jul 2009 - I have requested the helmet pads before,
for my plt, now I am the company operations NCO and I am hoping to get pads for
the rest of my company and Counter IED Team, here at FOB [opsec deleted], in Afghanistan.
SFC, Army
26 Jun 2009 - Military Transition Team/Combat Advisor,
small team working by/ with and through Iraqi counterparts to improve the Iraqi
security forces. Using issued MSA pads and currently getting tension headaches
45min-1hr after wearing helmet. The corners of the "Pad Rect" focus pressure on
one location and do not form to the head. The only relief is finishing the mission
and taking the helmet off. MAJ, Army
22 Jun 2009 - xxxth Eng CO is already deployed and active
in Afghanistan. I am asking for the pads because this platoon has already had 3
hits, the last being pretty severe. SSG xxx and 3 other men are dealing with a possible
TBI, I was researching TBI and found this website. SSG, Army
8 Jun 2009 - The pads are hard and I can't get them positioned
right so my helmet is either too loose or too tight. I already get migraines it
just makes it worse. Most personnel have various problems with their helmets all
causing headaches. It doesn't have the manufacturer on the pad, just says "Unit
Pad, Crown Size 6, W911QY-05-D-0001, NSN 8470-01-548-9415, 9U425, LOT 2127-2.
SPC, Army
4 Jun 2009 - we are operating outside the wire pulling
EOD response for a great area, most of us only have the basic issue and they are
either already broken or falling apart . PFC, Army
1 Jun 2009 - I have had the same pads since my first deployment
in 2005, we spent 13 months in iraq and then we came back and did our stateside
training and deployed again to Afghanistan for 15 months and now we are prepping
to go to iraq again. I will be a medic. SGT, Army
26 May 2009 - I'm not sure who made my current pads but
when I wash them they come apart at the seam, I have to glue them back together,
I try to clean them every few weeks, I hate having dirty pads. SFC, Army
16 May 2009 - Most of my guys have been deployed before
and have not recieved replacement pads from the last deployment and are hard as
heck. You guys are awesome and I hope to get new and improved pads for my guys ASAP.
I have a few guys that could have been better served with them already. Thank you
so much. SGT, Army
11 May 2009 - My platoon runs resupply missions to 4 different
JSS in support of our line companies. We are on the road a minimum of four hours
at a time and that's our short mission. I am in the front gun truck and the issued
pads give me a tension headache from hell. The only thing on the back of our
pads is Unit Pad with NSN # and Lot #. They are extremely stiff and have no give.
About an hour and a half in or so I start getting a tension headache from hell.
We also run our missions at night so we have NODs mounted and that doesn't help.
I feel like my head is surrounded by bricks. CPL, Army
8 May 2009 - My soldiers and I are grateful for everything
that you are doing for us and the rest of our brothers and sisters in arms. I'm
not requesting pads for myself or the guys that don't go out the wire much, but
I am ordering them for the soldiers that are out everyday and are having problems
with their current kits. We conduct route clearance operations and they spend hours
and days on end out looking for IEDs and people that are putting them in. Luckily,
we have only sustained minor injuries to include a few concussions, so we understand
the value of adequate equipment. We have placed several orders to get them replaced,
but are continuously denied for one reason or another. If there is anything that
you can do to assist my Sappers, I would be eternally grateful...In any case, keep
doing what you are doing. We appreciate your efforts as I'm sure every soldier,
sailor, airman, and marine do as well. God bless you and all that you do. CPT, Army
7 May 2009 - Sapper company with 4 platoons conducting
route clearance; we've conducted nearly 650 missions in 12 months. The pads you
provide are of better quality, last longer and are softer. CPT, Army
28 Apr 2009 - We are a combat advisor team working directly
with Iraqi units on a daily basis, so we are basically in our full battle rattle
all the time. We also conduct mounted and dismounted combat patrols everyday.
We were issued the Wendy pads which cause considerable pain, headaches and discomfort
after wearing them. I'm interested in emailing PEO Soldier with my teams comments
so they hear our feedback and make some changes to get us the best gear possible
that is both functional and comfortable. I think these pads will reduce the number
of complaints I receive from team members who have difficulty with their helmet
pads. Appreciate everyone who is supporting this program! CPT, Army
Below is a certificate that
was recommended by a Soldier in Iraq whose medical unit Operation Helmet has equipped
with top-of-the-line helmet pads. We appreciate their way of saying 'thanks' to
all who pitch in and help us help our troops.
Operation Helmet Executive Summary of Meeting with PEO Soldier and
Mr. Tolleson of the House Armed Services Committee Staff, 9 December 2008 at the
House Armed Services Committee’s hearing room, Washington, DC.
Points discussed, answered, comments
What are the top concerns of Operation Helmet related to the current GI
pads?
Blunt force protection,
Stability
Comfort
Flammability
Blast wave protection
Reminder: Operation Helmet has no financial relationship with Oregon Aero
other than purchasing what we consider the top-of-the-line helmet pads from
them.
The emails we receive were presented without identifying information at the
request of senders. Spontaneous emails from Soldiers represent the best User
Evaluation data available, coming directly from participants using helmet
pads under real-life combat environments for months at a time.. Combat use
will reveal flaws undetected in limited evaluations. Helmets only work when
worn.
a. Ans: PEO Soldier has not received ONE complaint about the helmet ‘system’
from a single soldier in the field or during post-deployment debriefings.
b. Comment: Hard to reconcile that with the emails that stream into us
spontaneously. The question as to why the difference rightly belongs to PEO
Soldier’s division monitoring system comments/debriefing.
Drop testing should be done within reasonable temperature parameters, not
the artificial hot and cold temperatures as presently done. This ignores
heat transfer between the head and helmet liner pads. Specifications for
future pad testing and acquisitions should include wearability (comfort)
standards as well as protection at temperatures representing ‘real life’
wear. We presented independent lab studies showing the helmet pads’
temperature migrate rapidly towards skin temperature rather than staying at
artificially low/high temperatures. Thus, the current standard tests at 14
and 130 degrees F are meaningless. I asked for clarification of just when
the tests are to be done and if that data will be used to change the
non-ballistic impact test temperatures.
a. Ans: No changes to test temperature testing requirements, ‘there have to
be SOME standards set’. Studies to verify OpHelm’s position on realistic
temperatures ‘are planned’ sometime in the future.
b. Comment: By whom and why were those artificial temperatures chosen? Why
weren’t those studies on realistic temperature test requirements done before
the independent lab testing? Doing the same thing over and over and
expecting different results each time is the definition of insanity. No
Answer. Independent laboratory testing showing helmet/pad systems quickly
assume temperatures near body level even in extreme temperatures were
presented; the Army claims never to have seen them although they were
presented to them in 2007.
The USAARL testing done in 2006 was not done as mandated by DOD and
Congress. Independent lab testing by outside sources should be done.
a. Ans: Three civilian labs (Southern Impact Research Center, InterTek, and
Dynamic Research Institute) are undertaking the impact tests on helmet pads
from 5 vendors (Team Wendy, MSA, Skydex, Oregon Aero, Riddell, and Pacific
Safety Products((a Canadian company)) and should be reported by early 2009.
These tests will use a higher g-force level of impact (14.1 and 17.3 fps)
and require that the pads meet the 150g protection level. Results will be
released after Army analysis.
b. Comment: If the tests simply replicate the unrealistic temperature
parameters of the current test, the information will not reflect combat use
for the troops. See #2. above. Why not release the raw data to interested
parties for independent analysis instead of only the Army’s
interpretation/analysis.
USAARL tests demonstrate wide ‘outliers’ in test results, well beyond that
expected in such a series of tests. Those improbable results skew data at
random and should be discarded. Also, testing on Oregon Aero pads done over
three years ago were presented as if done contemporaneously with other
vendors.
a. Ans: Agree; civilian lab results will be examined at length.
b. Comment: Given the original tests were faulty, why was this data used for
procurement decisions by both the Army and the Marines. No answer.
Erratic results may reflect deficiencies in the head-forms used by USAARL
that have no biosimilar chin/nape strap attachment points nor do they
simulate the human skin covering the skull. This has the potential to allow
slippage of the helmet and result in imprecise impact points during testing
with erratic results.
a. Ans: Agree.
b. Comment: If the civilian labs also have no biosimilar head-forms, the
erratic results will continue unless carefully monitored by the testing
scientist. ‘Outlying’ test results from slippage should be discarded
according to PEO Soldier’s own scientists, but were included in USAARL’s
report of testing done in 2006, skewing results.
A lack of uniformity in the thickness of pads tested by USAARL was noted on
pages 50-53 of the test report. The Team Wendy pads when dissected turned
out to be over one inch thick while all others were ¾” in thickness.
a. Ans: This was not noticed by Army reviewers.
b. Comment: All pads tested should have representative sectioning and
measurements to assure valid comparison of equal thickness. Pads should be
carefully identified as to vendor and source of acquisition for testing and
retained in a chain of custody following tests.
G-forces higher than 10 fps in pad tests should be required from all
vendors.
a. Ans: Testing at 14.1, 17.3 and higher fps is now incorporated in the
independent lab tests to be reported in 2009. The five vendor-supplied pads
for the testing are required to meet the higher impact forces. (later data
shows NONE of the pads passed the more stringent tests).
b. Comment: If the same extremes of temperature are used as in the earlier
tests, the same worthless data will be forthcoming
Transfer of ‘blast wave’ forces directly to the skull via too-firm pads
should be evaluated.
a. Ans: The blast ‘wave’ is still an unknown entity in the causation of TBI,
but shock-tube studies are anticipated in 2009.
b. Comment: Our communications with Aris Makris and the recent study from
Lawrence Livermore national research lab headed by Dr. Mott were presented.
Researchers feel that too-firm helmet pads may be harmful rather than
protective.
Flammability specs for helmet pads should meet that of the Kevlar shell;
ideally should at least meet specs for NASCAR helmet linings.
a. Ans: In the 700 burn cases reviewed by the Army Surgical Research team at
BAMC, none of the burns could be related to the possibility of causation by
burning helmet pads.
b. Comment: In later discussions, they backed off this statement somewhat.
They stick to the “no conclusive evidence exists”. It is difficult to
determine the exact source of a burn. Our position: if the pads are highly
flammable, require the vendor to render them self-extinguishing. Use
flammability standards similar to that required of the ACH helmet shell
(Kevlar) itself. If all else fails, use the same standards set for NASCAR
racing driver helmets.
At present, only Team Wendy and MSA pads are the vendors from whom pads are
purchased by the Army. Why? a. Ans: NIB is tasked to ‘produce’ pads that meet Army specifications. NIB
in turn negotiates with vendors who produce pads with a certain amount of
the work to be done by the blind. Only MSA and Team Wendy pads meet Army
specifications and are ‘approved’ by NIB as co-vendors. b. Comment: The Army used Oregon Aero (OA) pads for the first 500,000 MICH/ACH
helmets and the OA pads met those same specifications according to Natick
Soldiers Lab. The USAARL report indicates that ALL pads tested, including
Oregon Aero, met Army specifications for 10 fps impact g-forces. None met
the 150-g limit on impact tests done at 14.14 fps.
i. According to Oregon Aero, they have attempted to work with NIB but have
been rebuffed at every turn. In late 2007, the Northwest NIB office
completed site surveys and made a determination of which parts of the pads
could be produced by the blind. The NIB National offices turned this effort
off with no explanation.
Does the Army have a list of ‘approved vendors’ for helmet pads?
a. Ans: No such list exists. However, PEO-S states Oregon Aero did not
submit pads for ‘new testing’ so is not included in the current vendor list
vetted by NIB for co-production of pad sets. A list of approved vendors will
be developed following the 3-lab independent testing at higher g-forces next
year. Once that is done, the Army will issue a ‘seal of approval’ that
vendors can use.
b. Comment: If there is no list, where does NIB get the ‘non-existent’ list
to open discussion with ONLY Team Wendy and MSA to co-produce helmet pads?
This makes no sense. See #10 above; Oregon Aero pads in fact meet all
current specifications as do MSA and Team Wendy, so should be included in
competitive negotiations. Something else is at work here! The claim that
Oregon Aero did not submit pads for testing is puzzling, given that Oregon
Aero was the only supplier for the first 500,000 ACH helmets fielded by the
Army.
Where was the Army Limited User Evaluation (LUE) conducted?
a. Ans. Ft Benning GA sometime between Aug-Oct 2008.
b. Comment: No results were provided. Combat User Evaluations (as reflected
in spontaneous emails to Operation Helmet) are far superior to short-term
Stateside Limited User Evaluation was reemphasized.
How many sets of pads does each soldier draw for their helmet?
a. Ans: Each helmet comes with one set of pads preinstalled by the helmet
manufacturer and soldiers are given a second set of pads purchased by the
Army.
b. Comment: The emails we get indicate the Team Wendy/MSA pads fall apart
quickly and the helmet becomes unstable, while Oregon Aero pads last a full
deployment.
i. There is no saving when the unit price is lower for TW/MSA but double or
triple the number of pads must be purchased to sustain a soldier for their
tour of duty. No answer given
Are Soldiers permitted to use the Oregon Aero pads that Operation Helmet
sends in response to their requests?
a. Ans: Yes.
b. Comment: Still seems strange we get so many complaints from warriors
about their GI (TW/MSA) pads, requesting Oregon Aero pads.
PEO Soldier claims NO complaints have been received from troops in the field
or in post-deployment briefing. We simply do not think this is so.
When did NIB get selected to provide the pads?
a. Ans: July 2005 NIB was selected as a “directed source”
b. Follow up questions: Is the pad system a piece of combat equipment? No
real answer – it is part of the helmet which is a combat system. Are there
other combat systems made by NIB? Yes: some (?)
Once the latest civilian lab independent testing is done, what will the
certification do? (Following the three-lab independent civilian lab tests,
the Army will ‘certify’ which pads they will accept doing business
with/through NIB for future procurement. These tests are complete but
results are being withheld pending ‘analysis’)
a. Ans: Each approved manufacturer will be listed on the certification list
and receive the Army certified seal. 5% of a certain amount of profits will
go to MWR.
NIB = National Industries for the Blind (JAWOD law) TW = Team Wendy, helmet pad manufacturer MSA = Mine Safety Appliances, helmet and helmet pad manufacturer OA = Oregon Aero, helmet pad manufacturer among other military items. NRL = Naval Research Laboratory MWR = Morale, Welfare & Recreation
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting a
different outcome each time. PEO Soldier should insist that meaningful
temperature tests be made the norm rather than the baked/frozen helmet system/headform
standards used in past and future planned tests.
19 April 09:I have
been in Iraq for over 3 months now and we conduct night route clearance. I
have to constantly adjust and shift my current pads around due to headaches,
which in turn takes my eyes away from searching for IED's. (SSG, USA-R)
4/8/09... the new pads are awful,
they are too hard and most Marines get headaches. ( they just don't compress enough)
Sgt, USMC
4/3/09:Sir, I am happy to tell you that I did a little.. 'Which one would you like
to wear'. Almost a type of blind taste test. In every case they all said that they
would want to wear your pads vs the ones issued to us. As a matter of fact I was
talking to a Sgt who said that she had to take a knife and stab the issued pads
to get them softer and more comfortable. Thank you again! (Combat Medic, Afghanistan).
SPC, USArmy, Medic. OpHelmet Note: DON'T DO
THIS! It destroys the pad integrity including the waterproof plastic bag that
surrounds the pad.
4/2/09: My unit is using
the Skydex pads that are currently in issue and they have been literally nothing
but a headache. I was told by a friend that your organization was giving the
better, more comfortable Oregon Aero pads to Soldiers who are deployed. If
there is any way that you could help us out, I would very genuinely appreciate it;
the hot months are coming and the headaches that come in those months are terrible.
Thank you for your consideration
and patriotism. SPC, USArmy, Combat Medic
2 April 2009:
I'm currently using Oregon Aero pads I received from the Army in 2005. I love
them and think that they're the best type of pads for the ACH/MICH; especially with
the coming summer heat. The other 11 guys on my team have the newer MSA pads.
My guys are constantly complaining about hot spots and a few of the pads have failed
due to the material separating from the pad and ripping. We're in a very isolated
area along the Iranian border and our water usage is extremely limited. Without
the ability to take care of ourselves and our equipment some things don't get cleaned
like they should. I've got a couple of guys that have helmet pads that smell very,
very bad. I don't know what exactly caused this but I've been using my OA pads for
closed to 4 years and have had no such problems. I've been on a quest to get
my guys set up with the Oregon Aero pads for a couple of weeks now but due to OP
tempo haven't had internet access. We appreciate what you and your organization
are doing for us. The tasks we face we do for our nation and the support people
like you provide can make a man's allergies act up. Thanks for all that you do.
SFC, USArmy, BTT
28 March 2009:I currently
have the Oregon Aero BLSS kit and have been using it for 4 years. I love this kit
and would like to get a replacement Oregon Aero kit since this one is on its last
legs and every vendor I've tried says there is a 3-4 week backorder. If you have
any of these available I would be very appreciative. Thank you. !Lt USA.
21 March 2009:I received
them yesterday in the mail and the Marines had a 20k hike last night and put them
in before they left. They said it was awesome not to have their heads hurting
after the hike. We greatly appreciate all that you guys are doing for the
Marine. Semper fi.
19 March 2009 Convoys, Security..
The current pads are hard and can lead to headaches with prolonged wear
14 March 2009: I
just tried on a helmet with the pads you sent to another unit I'm attached to, what
a difference, I have never used those pads. Thanks for taking care of the troops
in the sand box.
29 February 2009: THE SYSTEM THEY GAVE US IS HORRIBLE
23 Feb 2009:We are part of a crt (combat repair team) and we
are constantly wearing our ach's and many of us continue to get headaches... We
just arrived in Iraq and I would like the rest of my team to be comfortable and
less irritable at times when we are on recovery
20 Feb 2009: Hey, Everyone at Operation
Helmet, God, I can’t begin to explain to you how much better my head feels in the
pads you so graciously gave me and members of my squad here in Afghanistan. We wear
these things 6-8 hours a day and when in vehicles I have to put a radio headset
in my webbing and at night NVG’s on top. Usually I would get major head pains and
headaches from the cheap, old, worn out pads. My squad loves them too. I know I’ve
been sending email correspondence back and forth but I haven’t seen the internet
for months & so I’ll get back to those soon. I hate to ask, but I know a bunch of
the members of my platoon have seen our pads and heard how we felt in them and would
like some. (Actually someone I gave pads to just came off-post and was praising
how much better they are). I don’t know what you can do and I don’t want to
impose, but those of us who have them love them and frankly others are jealous.
I really can’t express how much I am gracious for the gift; definitely better than
any care package. Thank you all and keep up the good work. I will be praising your
organization and spreading the word so you get the recognition you deserve. Sincerely,
LCPL xxxxxxxxx, (Afghanistan Marine)
NOTE: We may worry
about the economy here Stateside, but that seems awfully petty compared to what
these young warriors face every day. Please, please help me keep on helping them
by donating some hard-earned and scarce cash TODAY. I'm sending these Marines more
pads in spite of our bank account being so slim that if it turned sideways it'd
disappear.
12 Jan 09:Doc, I gotta tell you, these new pads are the best thing since sliced bread!
My Soldiers are now finding it comfortable and bearable, compared to the pads we
were issued. No more headaches, no more sweaty smell, gotta love it.
Finally, these really make the ACH feel more stable and a more natural feeling on
your head, the best you can get while wearing a helmet. Thank you so much
for your hard work and dedication to Soldiers and their well being. Bottom
line, these are definately a 10 out of 10!
09 Jan 09:
Being a Paratrooper, I have seen my share of concussions with the pads that come
with the ACH helmet. A few guys I know have jumped from an airplane and landed
hard enough to knock themselves out cause the pads are so hard and stiff.
Now that we are back in Iraq, I am more worried about TBI from IED strikes while
inside the new MRAP vehicles. Thanks for what you are doing. I think what
you are doing is very relevant but I believe the word needs to get out to more soldiers.
I have been here in Iraq three times and this is the first I have heard of
your program. Thanks again!!
31 Dec 08:
Doc,these pads are the best......this was the best
gift the guys have received so far! We still need some more pads if you can send
them.....we have someone with a large head and the size 6 pads didn't fit but if
you could get size 4 that would be awesome. total number of pads still needed are
about 45. 1st and 2nd Platoon guys are really whining about not getting any....thanks
for all you are doing!!!!
21 Dec 08:I can tell you from first hand experience, the pads you guys send us are
so much better than the regular pads. Even though they are now giving pads
out with the helmets, the pads are literally like rocks. I know our contracts
for equipment are given out to the lowest bidder the majority of the time, and this
is where money should not be skimped.
15 Dec 08: I'm
in a security element for a XXXX unit deploying to southern Afghanistan in January,
we were issued the old LWH kevlars without pads or any type of head support.
I am trying to get them for my squad in order to give us that extra comfort and
protection that our older model kevlars do not offer... I appreciate what
you are doing for us, and my hats off to you...
13 Dec 08: Sir,
Our ten hour patrol today helped refresh my memory on why my team is asking for
replacement pads. The hard pads press relentlessly on your head, particular the
forehead area, creating pain ranging from annoying discomfort, to more severe headaches
in different individuals. The major complaint we have with the pads is how fragile
the fabric is holding the stiff foam blocks. When you attempt to pull the pads out
to clean or reposition them, they tear very easily requiring you to get new replacement
pads that are need to be broken in again. Having worn the old Kevlar for many years
prior to the ACH, I readily admit that the new ACH system is light years beyond
what we had in the 90s. I couldn't imagine wearing a Kevlar all day, everyday here
in Iraq.
15 Nov 08:
I am a Cavalry Scout, conducting Reconnaissance and Dismounted Urban Operations.
I am currently in Iraq, and am scheduled to return back to the states in late 2009.
My platoon was issued the older pads that collapse after wearing them for about
a month.
6 Nov 08:
Doc,
Have been out of the loop for the past "couple" days on mission, a very long mission.
Got back and received the helmet pads. Passed them all out and had to save
one for myself. They have all been used and there is only one word to describe
them: AWESOME! I have asked everyone about the pads and they are all
in love with them. I am a .50 cal gunner in the turret and spend ALOT of time
standing there all geared up watching and waiting. Normally I have to duck
into the vehicle every once in a while to wipe sweat and take the ACH off just to
let me head get a break. That is NOT necessary any more. I can keep
my ACH on without a problem. I can also tell you that the pads also keep you
warm as well as cool. Here in Mosul it gets cold and I wear nothing under
my ACH now. Again thank you so much for your support!!! Be safe and take care!!!
19 Nov 06 - I spoke to my son-in-law in Iraq. he says he is very satisfied
with the Oregon Aero insert. he says it fits well, is soft and comfortable
and is not too hot. the "Team Wendy" one always gave him a headache because
it pressed against his temples. hope this helps. SPC JV
18 Nov 06 - They
fit good and work well but the front pad is somewhat uncomfortable. SPC
SC
4 Sep 06 - I was serving in Iraq as a civilian bomb disposal contractor.
On May 3rd, 2006 my convoy was hit by an IED. The bomb went off next to
my truck injuring myself and one of my security team members and unfortunately
killing our driver. I sustained injuries to my face requiring facial reconstruction,
multiple shrapnel wounds, and tendon loss in my right arm. My doctors were
extremely surprised that I had not sustained any brain damage. I was wearing
a helmet outfitted with this [OH] kit. I just wanted to write a quick note
saying 'thank you'. On behalf of myself, my family, and my friends: Thank
You!!! Please keep up the good work. V/R, Eric S.
2 Sep 06 - I thank you guys for the ways you support us out here.
This ain't political for us on ground. We are doing our jobs and simply
want to make it back home to our loved ones. We do get these ACH before
we hit theater but there are times when they are lost and when other soldiers
take them. That's when you get stuck wearing the old helmet. The pads are
great but when you are missing a pad from the ACH, we do have to pay more
than 100 dollars to replace them. Thank you for your support. SGT Melendez
18 Jul 2006 - Dr Bob, A quick note from a soldier here. I am impressed
and pleased at the work you are doing. Helmets of the old kevelar
and chin strap style sucked - I'd get a headache and just take mine off.
Recently, my unit issued us all (from their own budget - amazing) the new
type which you provide to troops who need them i.e. the Oregon Aero type.
They are a markedly more comfortable fit. Of course it took me 30+
mins to put it together but I am really pleased. I like the way it
fits the occipital scull area snugly, you can not knock it off easily, its
secure. I heard your grandson was wounded. May he have a speedy
recovery. He has my best wishes. Keep up the good work. Spc.
H. 640th ASB
Jul 14, 2006 - I'm a soldier
that been to Iraq two times and i've seen what the new helmet can do to save
lives. I wish I could do more to help support your cause but I can't right now.
wish I could. All I can do is tell you that your group is making a difference
in ways that you may never see but will be life long. Sgt Gilberto P.
Jul 12, 2006 - It was exactly one week ago today that
I ordered an upgrade for my Kevlar. I want to thank you for the fast service.
I am currently deployed in support of OEF. The upgrade sure makes the Kevlar
a lot lighter and more comfortable. Again thank you for the fats service and
for providing this kind of service. SGT R, K-9, Afghanistan
Great news from Chief of Staff's
office: The Army has completed its research on the safety and added impact protection
of the ACH (advanced combat helmet) and is proceeding to purchase and ship over
800,000 of them rapidly emphasizing getting them to the troops in Iraq ASAP.
The less great news is that Reserve units seem to be low
down on the 'food chain' and last to get the equipment, so we'll keep working with
them to provide as much added protection as we can by providing BLSS kits when
funds allow. When the Regular troops are equipped, most of them 'leave behind'
their ACH for Reserve units replacing them. Great teamwork, Army!
As a soldier who served in Afgahnistan with the
ACH helmet (which has the pads installed at the factory)I can say it is one of the
best ideas ever, and very comfortable. I think what you guys are doing is great.
It is always nice to see someone pulling for and supporting the little guys on the
ground who actually do the fighting! Thanks for looking out for my Brothers in Arms!
I just wanted to say thank you to Cher; finally a Hollywood
celebrity who is speaking up for us. I am an female army soldier who served in Iraq
in 2004/2005. I don't believe in the war itself, but I believe in the soldiers,
and if asked, I would go again. That's my job: I'm a soldier for my country. I can
have no outward opinion.
I had no padding in my helmet except for a little foam-rubber disc I bought at
the PX that was designed to make it more comfortable. We were hit with numerous
IED's. I may have blast injury, but don't know for sure. My memory and balance are
effected, but that could be from post traumatic stress disorder as well.
I just saw the feature on CNN and wanted to say thank you to Cher for coming
to our defense. We were unprepared over there, and it was a horrible experience
for us. We were truck drivers and did tons of convoy missions hauling fuel. I lost
friends. One in particular burned to death and I couldn't get her out of the humvee
she was in. I'll never forget that place, and I would like it if you, CHER, keep
this issue alive. Americans can just turn the channel, but soldiers can't.
Thanks again, SSG Leslie R
ACH procurement
details; poke this link. Also: Questions from a Congressman, answered by the
Army:
What is the Army's acquisition objective (AAO)?
In other words, how many helmets do they want to procure? ØAAO is 1,100,000
What percent of the AAO has been met?
How many helmets? Ø992,950 contract or 90%
Will
the AAO be completed in FY06? ØAAO will be procured by FY06
and Fielded by FY07.
How much has been spent
on the program to date? Ø$304,673,000 has been spent
on ACH to date
For clarification, how
many have been fielded? ØTo date, 370,000 have been
fielded to the Army through the RFI program.
SO, For most Army troops, it appears they will be
issued their new ACH either prior to deployment or on arrival in Kuwait or other
staging points.
"I want to commend
you on a great product you send, the BLSS Kit Helmet Liner. I 'inherited'
one from a soldier exiting the military and it has been wonderful to wear. Though
it is very well used, it is still far better than the one I was issued. I no longer
dread putting on my Kevlar as it is no longer painful. I swear you put helium in
the pads because it feels as if my helmet got lighter. My Battalion Commander recently
saw me wearing the BLSS Kit and asked me what it was. After I explained it, he wanted
to wear it and see how it felt. Needless to say, I was not willing to give up my
helmet without a fight! Luckily, my helmet was a different size but he still was
intrigued enough to task me with coming up with two sets for himself and his S4
to evaluate before we purchase them for the rest of the Battalion... Thank you for
making such a high quality piece of equipment and God bless us all!"
Sgt. J.S., U. S. Army
"I have fallen in love with the comfort and fitting of the BLSS Kit. I can't forget
the smiles on men and women's faces once they donned their helmet with the BLSS
Kit and no longer had to live with the constant knots and pain throughout the day
in Iraq. Your attention to soldiers and their comfort has made our job a lot easier.
I can't thank you enough for your product." D. S., Combat Engineer
For a very hard, fair and sometimes profane
look at the general problem with armor for the troops, visit Combat Reform. Written by
troops on the ground who know what they're talking about and tell it loud and clear.
(Not for small children who may learn how adults talk)
Email exchange 8/7/2005: First email:
I am currently mobilizing soldiers in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom.
I am wondering if you could donate a BLSS kit (upgrade) for the PASGT Helmet and
instructions for proper fitting and wear. The reason That I am asking is to inform
deploying soldiers that they have the option to order one of the kits free of charge
with no out of pocket cost. By having a BLSS kit fitted to my current PASGT
I can demonstrate the proper fit and wear and explain the importance of having
a proper fitting helmet. It is nice to know that others are looking out for the
safety of our soldiers as much as I am. If you can donate the upgrade please
send it to the address listed below. Thank you in advance. Troy Gxxx, 1/340th Regiment.
Reply from OpHelm
Troy: I was under the impression that the new ACH (advanced combat helmet)
was available to all Army personnel. That helmet comes complete with the Oregon
Aero pads as contained in the BLSS kit we provide troops still afflicted with
the PASGT. Please advise if you have the ACH, and if not, stomp on some toes until
you get it!
Bob Meaders, MD, CAPT, MC, USN-Ret. Operation Helmet, Inc. 74 Greenview St, Montgomery,
TX 77356
Response from Troy: Bob, I am in a TDA unit not in an MTOE unit so I don't see
any new equipment until the rest of the Army has it. All the troops I deploy out
of Fort McCoy are mostly National Guard and Reserve soldiers and some Airman. These
soldiers are still using first generation PASGT. None of these soldiers are issued
Advanced Combat Helmets. It is my understanding that these soldiers will not receive
this upgrade in theater either. Plus I don't think the army has enough ACH's to
go around. If they did...these soldiers and I would have the security of having
this upgrade or the ACH by now.
TROY A. G, SFC, USA 1/340TH REGIMENT (TSBN) WEAPONS TRAINING TEAM "PRESS THE
ATTACK"
OK, Army guys. Let's all pitch in to
help these guys. .they need and deserve our support, having to leave their 'peacetime'
jobs and buy most of their own equipment to go over the help whup up on the 'surges.
Bullet stopper
MICH helmet brings new level of user comfort and protectionA new helmet
providing improved protection, utility and comfort will be issued to the Special
Operations Forces next year.
The Modular Integrated Communications Helmet (MICH)
began development in 1997 as part of the Special Operations Forces Personal Equipment
Advanced Requirements program at the U.S. Special Operations Command. The MICH provides
the Special Operations Forces the flexibility to tailor the communications capability
of the helmet to the mission using one modular system.
“Preliminary users across the range have been more than happy with the helmet,”
said Richard Elder, equipment specialist with the Special Operations Forces Special
Projects Team at the U.S. Army Soldier Systems Center (Natick).
The MICH helmet (left) trims away the edge for improved visibility,
unobstructed hearing and reduced weight when compared to the current PASGT helmet.
Although molded like the current, standard-issue Personnel Armor System, Ground
Troops (PASGT) helmet in use since the early 1980s, the MICH trims away the edge
for improved visibility, unobstructed hearing, reduced weight (less than 3 pounds
without communication equipment) and easier integration with body armor.
“The fact that the edge of the helmet rides higher allows it not to impede with
the combat mission. You can use it with all types of body armor without feeling
clumsy by bumping into it,” Elder said. “You can shoot much easier in the prone
position without the helmet slumping and blocking your vision. We can take away
the soldier’s attention from equipment concerns so he can focus on the mission.”
He showed a MICH that had been shot several times during ballistics testing.
Besides a half-inch indent, the helmet showed little damage.
Until now, there’s never been a helmet designed to stop bullets, said Elder.
The MICH uses a different version of Kevlar combined with different bonding techniques
to form a shell capable of halting a submachine gun’s 9 mm round in addition to
protecting against fragmentation.
The current Kevlar helmet only protects against fragmentation and at most can
deflect bullets.
“A direct shot to the head is a dead man,” Elder said. “That’s not the case with
the MICH. The soldier could probably get back into the fight.”
What would allow the wearer to stay conscious is the
innovative seven-pad suspension system.
The current helmet uses a bolted-on nylon suspension with a leather headband that
is fastened onto the inside headband. Many users would buy a circular pad to ease
the weight stress on top of their heads.
Suspension pads consist of a comfort foam and “slow memory”
foam to absorb shock. The cloth covering wicks away moisture to keep users cooler.
The MICH suspension pads are composed partly
of comfort foam where the pads touch the head and mostly of “slow-memory” impact
foam with the resilience of a wrestling mat.
The foam is like a shock absorber against
a striking bullet.
(NOTE: In ballistic testing, while the helmets will stop a 9mm round, the
impact indents the helmet approximately 1.5. inches. If the helmet were against
the skull when the bullet strikes, that indentation is transferred to the skull
with resultant injury and/or fracture. Holding the helmet permanently off the skull
with shock-absorbing pads reduces or eliminates that scenario. Edit by OpHelm)
A black CoolMax cloth covering wicks moisture away and helps the user
stay cooler. Lining the inside is
a glued-on strip of Velcro fastener. Users can unhook and adjust the pads to create
a custom fit.
An improved strap attaches at four points on the helmet while
retaining the chin pocket for a more secure fit.
Also remarkably different from the current helmet is the four-point instead of
two-point chinstrap. The two-strap “pocket” at the chin remains the same, but instead
of anchoring to the helmet over the ear, one strap in front and behind the ear on
each side securely clamp down the MICH.
“You lose less helmets while jumping, and it’s more stable for everything we
put on it, such as night vision goggles,” Elder said. “In all of the testing, no
helmets have fallen off.”
Airborne operations are easier because the MICH requires no shock pad to prevent
whiplash while descending or retention strap.
The MICH helmet on the left proves its ability to stop 9 mm
rounds. A seven-pad suspension system allows the user to adjust the cushions for
the best fit.
Two features of the MICH reduce logistics. It’s made in medium and large with
different sized pads used to account for the vast majority of sizes in between,
and the helmet cover is reversible for woodland and desert camouflage. The PASGT
helmet uses separate covers and is issued in five sizes.
A communications subsystem designed to be included with the helmet is in the
final stages of testing, and because of its modularity, the MICH can be configured
to each specific group with or without the added equipment.
The subsystem is intended to provide aural protection and dual-channel communications
capability. It offers features such as a low-profile microphone, microphone adapter
for mask microphone, multiple radio and intercom adapters, and push-to-talk access.
The headset may be worn alone or with the helmet.
“We’re representing the Special Operation Forces, but who knows where it could
go from here,” Elder said.
The Marine Corps and FBI have ordered helmets for operational use and evaluation,
and the MICH is being considered as the helmet platform for Land Warrior, the Army’s
effort to create a revolutionary weapons system for the 21st century soldier.